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KarjamP The imaginative Christian Asperger from South Africa Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The imaginative Christian Asperger
#1: Nov 17th 2013 at 1:40:21 AM

A couple of weeks ago, I was enlightened to know that "Too Much Text" is against the rules.

Well, this trope page's image has too much text.

I don't know what to suggest.

edited 17th Nov '13 1:40:50 AM by KarjamP

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#2: Nov 17th 2013 at 1:57:59 AM

Not a rule. Having too much text can be a drawback, but it's not forbidden or anything. Keep.

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
KarjamP The imaginative Christian Asperger from South Africa Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The imaginative Christian Asperger
#3: Nov 17th 2013 at 2:13:25 AM

Read How To Pick A Good Image again, please, Rodney:

* Things to avoid

[...]

  • Wall of Text. If the image is nothing but a paragraph of text with a character drawn so that there's somewhere to stick a Speech Bubble, it's not a great image ... but it might make a good quote though.

(third bullet point).

Of course, I could be missing something.

edited 17th Nov '13 2:14:36 AM by KarjamP

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#4: Nov 17th 2013 at 2:14:33 AM

"Read it again"? Heh.

Yeah. "Things to avoid" and "against the rules" are way different.

edited 17th Nov '13 2:15:52 AM by rodneyAnonymous

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
KarjamP The imaginative Christian Asperger from South Africa Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The imaginative Christian Asperger
#5: Nov 17th 2013 at 2:16:15 AM

[up]By that logic, Just A Face And A Caption is not against the rules as well:

* Things to avoid
  • Just a Face and a Caption: The visual equivalent of a Zero-Context Example. Most of the time, they only make sense if you're already familiar with the work and the trope. Read the link for more details about why this is a bad idea.

The wording here of "Things to avoid" seems to be causing confusion between us, so I don't know which one of us is right.

And if you agree with "things to avoid", I'm still confused what you mean that that and "against the rules" are different.

edited 17th Nov '13 2:19:51 AM by KarjamP

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#6: Nov 17th 2013 at 2:20:29 AM

That is correct: JAFAAC is not against any rules. It is something to avoid, and a more serious criticism than "too much text".

I am not confused, "things to avoid" means "things to avoid", there is an important distinction between guidelines and rules. There are relatively few rules, and they are about objective things, like "no demotivators" or "no watermarked images". Guidelines are about subjective things, like "how well it communicates the right message" or "how cool it looks".

edited 17th Nov '13 2:30:26 AM by rodneyAnonymous

Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
KarjamP The imaginative Christian Asperger from South Africa Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The imaginative Christian Asperger
#7: Nov 17th 2013 at 2:33:45 AM

Okay, if you think me considering the guidelines as rules is wrong, then perhaps I won't call it against the rules in the future.note 

Can we please get back to discussing the picture now, please? tongue

edited 17th Nov '13 2:34:21 AM by KarjamP

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#8: Nov 17th 2013 at 2:56:04 AM

Unless there's an actual suggestion of an improved image, I'm not sure there's anything to discuss. This one's not pullable.

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KarjamP The imaginative Christian Asperger from South Africa Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#9: Nov 17th 2013 at 4:00:44 AM

Suggestion #1: [1]

(might need to get permission first).

edited 17th Nov '13 4:01:10 AM by KarjamP

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10: Nov 17th 2013 at 5:00:14 AM

Seems good to me.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#11: Nov 17th 2013 at 8:12:53 AM

It's an improvement.

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shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#12: Nov 17th 2013 at 2:01:24 PM

I don't see it, it's 2013 and you don't have to be a geek to be into computers any more...

nitrokitty Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
#13: Nov 17th 2013 at 2:14:43 PM

I dislike both the suggestion and current.

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#14: Nov 17th 2013 at 3:10:23 PM

For the record, I agree with the current being over-texty. That said, rodney is right in that most of what governs IP are guidelines and not rules. Off the top of my head, the only hard and fast rules about images are the insta-pull reasons.

The suggestion is alright (definitely an improvement over the current) but I'm not crazy about it either.

theAdeptrogue iRidescence Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#15: Nov 17th 2013 at 4:04:42 PM

Well, I'm not too crazy about the suggestion, but I suppose it's an improvement. At least I don't have to read through the walls of text to get what the image is supposed to be illustrating

Leaper Since: May, 2009
#16: Nov 17th 2013 at 5:34:00 PM

Possible objection to the current: can a person be a "closeted" geek if they look stereotypically geeky?

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#17: Nov 17th 2013 at 9:51:11 PM

I don't see it, it's 2013 and you don't have to be a geek to be into computers any more...
But it's Linux... tongue

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lexicon Since: May, 2012
#18: Nov 17th 2013 at 11:50:03 PM

The current has way too much text and not enough illustration of the concept. Pull.

KarjamP The imaginative Christian Asperger from South Africa Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The imaginative Christian Asperger
#19: Nov 18th 2013 at 6:51:14 AM

The suggestion, I know it's not that great of an image, but it's the best I could come up with at the moment.

Wonkyth, I understand what you say. I just made a mistaken assumption that those are rules that should be enforced, rather than guidelines.

edited 18th Nov '13 6:52:29 AM by KarjamP

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theAdeptRogue iRidescence Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#23: Dec 18th 2013 at 6:03:44 AM

Isn't this enough for a consensus? Seems like a good number of people prefer the suggestion over the current.

treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#24: Dec 18th 2013 at 7:25:03 AM

The suggestion is far from good and the current isn't so horrific it needs a pull, Keep Until Better Image Suggested applies here for me.

lexicon Since: May, 2012
#25: Dec 18th 2013 at 10:39:59 AM

I don't care for the suggestion or the current.


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