US IP law is actually in some ways more liberal than European law. A lot of stuff that is copyrighted under UK or French law cannot be copyrighted under US law.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
A procrastination in of itself
Sure but that's copywrite, for thinks like medical patents however I belive the US is much worse.
"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran
And now EFF is saying how bad this is
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Guys, we need to sink this faster than the iceberg sunk Titanic.
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How? And what about the similar TTIP?
The 11th round of negotiations are about to start. The EU Commission tries to post everything they can here.
The only thing I've heard from people involved in the negotiations is that the EU team doesn't want to even hear about lowering quality control. At all.
edited 10th Oct '15 8:31:33 AM by TerminusEst
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I suspect they also want to improve US Standards too. Good for them.
edited 10th Oct '15 8:40:11 AM by Greenmantle
Keep Rolling On
Holy shit, dive for cover... That is extremely bad.
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Why's that?
Face-Puncher
TTIP is pretty much in a deadlock. Certain member countries, especially Germany, want ISDS out of the agreement entirely, which the US doesn't want, and the European Commission keeps trying to propose "better" ISDS arrangements that the US keeps shooting down because that would make ISDS pointless as far as they're concerned, because anything "better" would give less power to corporations.
And the EU also wants the US to improve quality control and to develop/produce healthier products, as Greenmantle pointed out.
edited 10th Oct '15 12:56:45 PM by Quag15
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Yep, as mentioned below. The EU wants better from the US, and it appears they're stonewalling the EU on several issues.
Berlin anti-TTIP trade deal protest attracts hundreds of thousands
The environmental groups, charities and opposition parties that organised the protest claimed 250,000 people took part, while a police spokesman said 100,000 attended. Smaller protests were also held in other cities, including Amsterdam, with a rally due to be held in London on Saturday night at which shadow chancellor John McDonnell is scheduled to speak.
The Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) would create the world’s largest free-trade zone, encompassing some 800 million consumers, and harmonise regulation between the EU and North America in areas ranging from food safety law to environmental rules and banking regulations. It would mean that cars made in Britain could be sold in the US, for example, but opponents say it would water down important EU regulations.
Europe pressed to hasten U.S. trade deal after Pacific accord
TTIP is envisaged to go far beyond removing already low import duties and is seen as a new form of trade agreement, more concerned with agreeing on regulation and common standards to cut business costs, providing a model for others to follow.
The more ambitious TTIP is the logical next step, with an estimated gain of more than $100 billion (£66 billion) for both economies, each searching for growth in the face of a slowdown in China.
However, EU officials have complained in trade rounds to date of inflexibility from U.S. negotiators and a lack of ambition over the extent to which tariffs could be cut.
French trade minister Matthias Fekl said last week that the United States had failed to make a serious offer.
"France will look at all the options. If there is not a total change of attitude, we will look at all our options, including simply breaking off these negotiations," he said.
But EU officials also say some of the EU's 28 members profess in Brussels to want TTIP, but then appear far cooler when speaking to a sceptical public at home.
EU trade ambitions also go beyond just the United States. Of the 12 TPP parties, the European Union already has bilateral trade deals in place with Mexico, Chile, Peru and Singapore, has reached provisional deals with Canada and Vietnam and is in talks with the United States, Japan and Malaysia. Australia and New Zealand are also pushing to open trade talks with the European Union.
EU officials have said they sensed Japan might also have been stalling until TPP was done. It too may find its negotiating position strengthened.
Peter van Ham of Dutch think tank the Clingendael Institute said that may not be a bad thing. "TPP puts pressure on, but sometimes you need that pressure, that brinkmanship to get things done," he added.
edited 11th Oct '15 1:21:23 AM by Greenmantle
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And here's Torrentfreak's take on it.
Emphasis mine.
I'll only decide whether or not to worry about this if my country's joining.
Plants are aliens, and fungi are nanomachines.
It's probably gonna because of TTIP.
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Here's a breakdown on the TPP in terms of impact on video games.
It is not dead yet, it's miles away from that, especially if it gets shoved through soon.
edited 15th Oct '15 10:17:48 AM by Memers
So here's a White House petition. We need about 10,000 of them for the White House to respond.
Bumping to say that the treaty is here.
Let's read it up and see what we can find.
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
From what i've seen from other analyses, it's not that bad. It just seems to enshrine DMCA as the standard by which other countries must adhere. Malaysia gets an exemption from internet-freedom rules (in a bad way. The treaty actually bans content filtering, but Malaysia gets to keep theirs). The treaty also bans governments from forcing tech companies from putting backdoors in their encryption (meaning, enshrining Apple's "we've got encryption so wild even we can't crack it" as untouchable by US law).
The latter is interesting because the EU is trying to legislate against unbreakable end-to-end encryption, setting up a confrontation there.
I just wanna mention that there's a section that has rules regarding introducing foreign species to new environments (like how bringing in praying mantises is banned in Canada because they'll fuck up the environment), but the wording calls said foreign species "invasive aliens".
Considering all the recent talk of refugees with that crisis and how immigrants are usually called "illegal aliens", I shudder to think of how they could easily twist those words.
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careful there, opinions like those can easily get you decried everywhere as a fascist money-grubbing corporate-loving monster for even insinuating that the TPP isn't that bad. Honestly, cynically I can see people would use support for the TPP as a yardstick for your morality, with full support equating to "completely evil psychopath".
edited 6th Nov '15 4:51:37 PM by manhandled
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Everybody's dead, Dave.
TPP IS evil. There's no room for watering down the truth here, it's the most fucked up piece of legislation I've ever heard of. I can't begin to explain everything that's wrong with it, and also I'm not going to because information about it is now everywhere for anybody to read (if they're not being ignorant).
It was quite nice to see that this thread exists. We gotta shoot this booklet down.
H.B. Ward
edited 10th Oct '15 3:25:31 AM by Medinoc
"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."