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Ambiguous Name: Two Words Obvious Trope get usage counts

This is a little too close to being a Stock Phrase. Closer than I'm comfortable with. Any legitimate uses should be covered by Punctuated! For! Emphasis! and/or Dramatic Pause, which almost always accompany this one and, in such cases, are more directly responsible for the emphasis anyway. It's not the same trope, but it scoops up enough of the examples that they won't go undocumented.

Whatever else we do, I like faux-redlinking it. Anyone using it as a Pothole Magnet isn't paying attention to where the link points, so redirecting wouldn't do much.

[Edited for clarity]

edited 6th Oct '13 1:39:51 PM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
I don't think either of those deal with the "Three words" aspect.

 28 Native Jovian, Sun, 6th Oct '13 12:43:23 AM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
Yeah, I'm not sure how you could mistaken Word Count For Emphasis as a line of dialogue, or how specifying the number of words you're going to say in order to emphasize their importance is covered by punctuation or pauses.
 29 Troacctid, Sun, 6th Oct '13 1:33:02 PM from California
My point is I don't think it's tropeworthy. tongue
Rhymes with "Protracted."
 30 Rethkir, Sun, 6th Oct '13 1:40:14 PM from the gap between dimensions Relationship Status: Singularity
33If we do rename, I'd say Two Words: ... Nothing more.

edited 6th Oct '13 1:40:23 PM by Rethkir

 31 Native Jovian, Sun, 6th Oct '13 4:23:07 PM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
[up][up]How is it any less tropeworthy than, say, Punctuated! For! Emphasis! or This Is for Emphasis, Bitch!? It's a particular way of speaking in order to put emphasis on what you're saying.
Yeah. It's a Stock Phrase. I didn't think we get rid of existing Stock Phrases.

edited 6th Oct '13 4:30:35 PM by MikuruFan

 33 Septimus Heap, Sun, 6th Oct '13 11:39:56 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
Being a Stock Phrase is actually a reason for cutting. However, this one seems less like a Stock Phrase and more like a word structure that storytelling uses to convey emphasis.

Could work.

Any more for a rename?

My ideas:

While it is a little spoonsy, I like Word Count For Wmphasis. Maybe if the other type is split off, Wrong Word Count could work.

I would make a crowner by now, but I am not sure if the other variant (the comedic wrong word count one) should be split off. Their uses are a little different, but basically they're similar.

edited 11th Oct '13 9:59:10 PM by MikuruFan

Word Count For Emphasis sounds clunky and awkward. [tdown]

Anything with "Word Count" in it doesn't appeal to me, really. It's an awkward-sounding phrase, and the more common usage of it is for, like, essays or whatever. "Two Words" sounds better and is crystal-clear.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
 37 Native Jovian, Sat, 12th Oct '13 1:54:56 AM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
I'd say that the fact that the trope doesn't necessarily use two words is more important than the fact that you think "two words" sounds better than "word count". The trope is "telling someone the number of words you're going to say in order to emphasize the importance of those words". Word Count For Emphasis isn't the wittiest title ever, but it's no worse than Punctuated! For! Emphasis! or This Is for Emphasis, Bitch!, and it's going to be hard to find anything clearer or more concise. If you want to get in the two key concepts (the fact that you're saying the number of words, and the fact that you're doing it to emphasize them), then the alternatives are something like Number Of Words For Emphasis or Emphasizing With Number Of Words, which are both longer and don't flow as well.

edited 12th Oct '13 1:57:29 AM by NativeJovian

 38 Septimus Heap, Sat, 12th Oct '13 2:48:52 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
Emphasizing Shortness or Short For Emphasis.

Also, I'll probably ask for a rename crowner.

 39 Madrugada, Sat, 12th Oct '13 5:41:01 AM Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
But it's not simply that the answer is short. The trope is "giving the word count of the answer before actually giving the answer."
'He strutted across the bedroom, his hard manhood pointing the way' sounds like he owns a badly named seeing-eye dog. 'Sit, Hard Manhood!
 41 Willbyr, Sat, 12th Oct '13 7:48:13 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Anime-ted
I hooked the suggested crowner, but should this have been a single prop, or are there other options that are going to be added?
 42 Septimus Heap, Sat, 12th Oct '13 7:49:02 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
I asked for a multiprop because of what @26 had to say.

The issue of splitting the wrong word count variant.

I do not think this is discussed enough. Would it count as a separate trope?

 44 Madrugada, Sat, 12th Oct '13 1:43:43 PM Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
I think yes. There's no functional difference between "One word: 'No.'", "Two words: 'No way.'", "Three words: 'Not gonna happen.'" and "Four words: 'Not while I'm around.'" They all say the same thing with roughly the same amount of emphasis. They aren't different tropes.

A miscount on the number of words, like "Two words: 'No way in hell!'" does have a different use — it makes the scene or character using it somewhat comic just by being there.

edited 12th Oct '13 1:44:49 PM by Madrugada

'He strutted across the bedroom, his hard manhood pointing the way' sounds like he owns a badly named seeing-eye dog. 'Sit, Hard Manhood!
 45 Native Jovian, Sat, 12th Oct '13 2:30:32 PM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
Added "split wrong-number-of-words variant" option to the crowner.
And these options are not mutually exclusive?

 47 Madrugada, Sat, 12th Oct '13 5:52:48 PM Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
No. There's no reason that both can't be done.

'He strutted across the bedroom, his hard manhood pointing the way' sounds like he owns a badly named seeing-eye dog. 'Sit, Hard Manhood!
 48 0dd1, Sun, 13th Oct '13 10:52:49 PM from Nowhere Land Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
Still just awesome like that
But it's not simply that the answer is short. The trope is "giving the word count of the answer before actually giving the answer."
"Word Count: Answer", perhaps?
Insert witty and clever quip here.

New handle, same name.

My music.
 49 StarSword, Wed, 16th Oct '13 11:34:42 AM from somewhere in deep space Relationship Status: In denial
 50 Native Jovian, Wed, 16th Oct '13 11:55:31 AM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
Looks like we need a rename crowner. Can we get the page action crowner called? The rename option is at 9:3 and the split option is at 10:0.

Alternative Titles: Two Words Obvious Trope
22nd Nov '13 3:08:49 PM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the name will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of Crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative names.
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