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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#1: Aug 28th 2013 at 5:50:19 AM

This page currently doesn't have an image. I suggest todays's xkcd:

The caption can be left in place, and the alt text ("It was finally destroyed by a nuclear weapon carrying the energy of the Hiroshima bomb") used as our caption, or the caption text can be cropped off completely or cropped off and used as our caption.

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Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
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#2: Aug 28th 2013 at 6:45:59 AM

Good with me.

I'd like to either leave the existing caption or use a formatted caption, since otherwise we have two captions stacked outside the image which is just clunky. I don't mind which we choose to use.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#3: Aug 28th 2013 at 6:55:42 AM

That was my thought as well. I guess I was undercaffienated when I tried to explain it.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#4: Aug 28th 2013 at 7:18:15 AM

OK for me.

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Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#5: Aug 28th 2013 at 7:29:39 AM

I like it.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#6: Aug 28th 2013 at 8:11:38 AM

Well, whether we decide to use the caption of the comic itself or write our own I have a better version ready for upload. No need to upload both, though.

I think it's cleaner to use the comic's own caption, but it's probably shorter to use write one. I probably favour the former option, and leaving it as it is, unless someone comes up with a great caption.

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ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#7: Aug 28th 2013 at 8:15:02 AM

Use the comic's caption, with the Alt Text at the end in a labelnote.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#8: Aug 28th 2013 at 8:31:12 AM

^ I like that the best. And yea, a better resize is fine with me. I just did a quick and dirty size reduction to be able to post it here.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#9: Aug 28th 2013 at 8:42:39 AM

Well, I'm going off for a while, so I'll just leave this here.

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ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#10: Aug 28th 2013 at 9:34:27 AM

By the time the Frequently-Made Comparisons Monster was finally defeated, it had eaten enough people to fill a stadium and devastated an area the size of Rhode Island.

edited 28th Aug '13 9:36:05 AM by ShadowHog

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Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#12: Aug 28th 2013 at 9:46:14 AM

I don't think I like the separate caption, especially since opening the note causes "Island" and the note to go to the next line, making toggling cumbersome. I would keep it like this:

It was finally destroyed with a nuclear weapon carrying the destructive energy of 20 Hiroshima bombs.

One more thing, usually, something is measured in terms of multiple Hiroshima bombs. And I'm not sure how potholing to Alt Text works, since it's not really Alt Text.

edited 28th Aug '13 9:52:38 AM by Rethkir

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Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
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#13: Aug 28th 2013 at 9:53:35 AM

How is the alt text not alt text?

I'm good with the arrangement in 10, though a normal [[note]] is easier to click than a labelnote splat. 12 has two captions and is just clunky, as I thought, and the worse for how they have different formatting.

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Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#14: Aug 28th 2013 at 9:58:22 AM

[up] Alt Text appears when you move your cursor over it. This text appears when you click on it. I don't really like that particular arrangement, mostly because of the note moving to the next line, but I won't fight it if that's what everyone else wants.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#15: Aug 28th 2013 at 10:00:38 AM

I don't see any reason to change Randall's "a" Hiroshima bomb to "twenty". Part of the joke is that the various units of measure being used don't make a whole lot of sense when taken together — it's the length of a football field, but only weighs as much as one blue whale and only moves at about 60 mph tops (That's very large, but extremely light for the size, and 60 mph is fast for an animal, but slow as molasses for missiles or planes) and still required a nuke to kill it?

I prefer the caption arrangement in #10 to having both an interior and exterior caption; and using "note" instead of the splat.

edited 28th Aug '13 10:03:30 AM by Madrugada

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Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
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#16: Aug 28th 2013 at 10:03:37 AM

[up][up]Ohhh, I see.

It's potholed to Alt Text, like many XKCD image captions here are, because on the comic site it's alt text. However, here it has to be converted to note form because we can't do custom text on images like that.

edited 28th Aug '13 10:04:06 AM by Telcontar

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ShadowHog from Earth Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#17: Aug 28th 2013 at 11:03:12 AM

First, [up] what he said. It's Alt Text on the site itself.

Second:

I don't think I like the separate caption, especially since opening the note causes "Island" and the note to go to the next line, making toggling cumbersome.
Really? That doesn't happen on my end. (Win 7, Firefox 23.0.1)

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#18: Aug 28th 2013 at 11:13:29 AM

It doesn't happen for me, either.

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Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#19: Aug 28th 2013 at 11:47:53 AM

It's because my DPI is at 125%.

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nitrokitty Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
#20: Aug 28th 2013 at 3:16:42 PM

Am I the only one who doesn't like it? I don't see how it illustrates and its very text-reliant. I don't see how it wouldn't be interchangeable with a page quote.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#21: Aug 28th 2013 at 3:24:28 PM

You don't see how it illustrates the trope? And the trope is a dialogue (speech pattern) trope. How do you propose to illustrate that without text?

edited 28th Aug '13 3:25:21 PM by Madrugada

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#22: Aug 28th 2013 at 3:24:57 PM

Honestly, I agree with nitrokitty.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#23: Aug 28th 2013 at 5:03:26 PM

I think having both the caption and the alt text is too much. Honestly, the image speaks for itself without either, though one of them is acceptable.

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Melkior Since: Dec, 2011
#24: Aug 28th 2013 at 11:41:50 PM

I'm voting for 10 as the overall best option.

Having the "punch line" hidden until clicked on puts that version ahead in my opinion. The "moving" of the click point at some screen resolutions is a minor issue, since that's more a client problem than a server problem.

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nitrokitty Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
#25: Aug 29th 2013 at 11:26:01 AM

I dislike XKCD for page images. Sure, it lampshades tropes a lot, but that's ALL it does. The art style, while fine for the comic format, is very visually plain and not all that well suited for page images. Secondly, they rely extremely heavily on the text, which is the job of the page description. Good page images should show, not tell, and XKCD is all tell. I looked at image 10, and got an instant "too long, didn't read" reaction. 12 makes it even worse by proposing EVEN MORE TEXT. Is this really the best we can do?


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