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Johnny2071 Since: Aug, 2011
#1: Jul 30th 2013 at 4:19:13 PM

I don't why, but for some reason, Fox seems to care only about Jerkass animated sitcoms revolving around families of 4-5. Shows such as:

These shows always last much longer than other animated shows and in each of those families, there's always a Ms. Parenting the Husband / "Stop Having Fun" Guys within the family who makes an episode less pleasant to watch. The shows in question that have barely gotten a season or two are:

And if we extend this to shows from other networks, there's:

And this is without going into detail that the network has completely forsaken weekday afternoon and Saturday morning animation blocks, with Fox Kids being extinct, and shows from Piggsburg Pigs to Digimon Tamers plunged into obscurity.

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#2: Jul 31st 2013 at 11:20:06 AM

Do you have something to talk about here? This just looks like a complaint.

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Johnny2071 Since: Aug, 2011
#3: Jul 31st 2013 at 11:41:22 AM

I DO have something to talk about.

  • 1. Why is Fox so interested in these shows?
  • 2. How come they last longer than any other animated sitcom?
  • 3. Why did they pull the plug in Fox Kids and Saturday morning animated shows altogether?
  • 4. Am I the only one who is able to notice this?

What is your purpose in this discussion?

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#4: Jul 31st 2013 at 12:00:07 PM

  1. ) Ratings and advertisers willing to pay good prices for the audiences' eyeballs.
  2. ) Ratings, and advertisers willing to pay good prices for the audiences' eyeballs.
  3. ) Ratings and a lack of advertisers willing to pay the prices Fox wanted for the audiences' eyeballs.
  4. ) Probably not.

And Fast Eddie is the admin of the site. I'm one of the moderators, and our purpose is to enforce the site policies. One of which is "No threads just to complain. There needs to be something to discuss or converse about."

edited 31st Jul '13 12:00:33 PM by Madrugada

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redhed311 Since: Sep, 2010
#5: Jul 31st 2013 at 12:25:54 PM

Jerkass animated sitcoms

For some of us, the Jerkass-ness is part of the appeal. Hell, Roger isn't the most popular American Dad character for nothing.

there's always a Ms. Parenting The Husband / "Stop Having Fun" Guys within the family who makes an episode less pleasant to watch.

Every comedy needs a straight man. Besides, YMMV, they don't make the shows any less pleasant for me, especially since most of these women are usually Not So Above It All.

And if we extend this to shows from other networks

South Park, Daria, Beavis And Butthead, Futurama, and Aqua Teen Hunger Force are just a few non-family centered sitcoms that lasted well over one season.

How come they last longer than any other animated sitcom?

Ratings, dear boy.

Why did they pull the plug in Fox Kids and Saturday morning animated shows altogether?

Most networks have purged non-educational Saturday morning blocks. There are a number of reasons. Some networks opted for more paid programming, money issues, the rise of cable, etc. I'm nearly thirty and abandoned Saturday morning cartoons for the most part after 1995, but I still want to cry when I see Saturday morning TV schedules nowadays. The one non-educational Saturday morning block's selection isn't exactly varied and caters heavily to boys. *dons nostalgia goggles* What happened to the great unisex cartoons of the late 80s and early 90s?

BagofMagicFood Since: Jan, 2001
#6: Jul 31st 2013 at 2:28:18 PM

are just a few non-family centered sitcoms that lasted well over one season.
So you're proving Johnny's original point that Fox is the only network that relies on the family unit like this!? I guess what they're banking on is that real families won't be as afraid to watch a cartoon if they think, "Hey, that's a family just like us... ...but so much wackier! waii"

Johnny2071 Since: Aug, 2011
#7: Jul 31st 2013 at 5:21:17 PM

So we can all agree that Fox is a corrupt corporate empire that solely cares about sports, ratings, and promoting overly strong women and jerkass viewpoints. "Lower your standards, and from there, you can go on forever". Not to mention how far they would possibly go to promote Teen Pregnancy and unhealthy love-hate romances, as long as it gets them a few Benjamins and cynical / personal delight

Now that this thread is locked, I guess I can use the rest of this post as my own personal blog space.

  • The Simpsons has a lot of one-shot characters that are quite popular, such as Jessica Lovejoy, Allison Taylor, Alex Whitney, Colin, and pretty much every guest spot child character. Many fans are unhappy that they only got a single appearance.
    • Also, Hank Scorpio.
    • Getting into specific character examples, Samantha Stanky is a good example to apply to this trope. Not only could she have been the one true Love Interest for Milhouse (and end Milhouse's embarrassing attempts to win Lisa over), but she could have been a second best friend for Bart, making the three of them a trio, and by possible association, the first true friend Lisa would ever have. Sadly, Samantha prudish father sent her to an all-girl convent school, where she is locked away from the outside world, and hasn't been seen or referenced since.
      • On an analytical note, Samantha also could been one of the rare glimmers of purity in lackluster town full of [[Jerkass jerks]].
    • After regaining his wealth and reconciling with Homer, Herb Powell could've been the Big Good of Springfield, given his status in contrast to Mr. Burns' Big Bad. He could've also been an excellent benefactor in helping the Simpson family in any of their recurring financial jams. However, by the time the writers decided to get Danny Devito involved with the Simpsons again, he was given one off-screen line confirming that he was poor again.
    • Mr. Bergstrom could've been the one teacher who cared about Lisa's education. However, as a substitute teacher constantly on-call by other schools, he had to leave, while Ms. Hoover would remain as Lisa's teacher a respond to her zest for learning with apathy.
    • The Nahasapeemapetilon Octuplets themselves could've been given individual quirks that distinguish them from each other (if they would get olderand receive more screen time). However, any future incarnation would involve all eight of them working at the Kwik-E-Mart as eight mini-Apus, and being bossy and rude to any of their employees.
    • Even though Ling Bouvier was able to be adopted from China by Selma, both Patty and Selma are shown more frequently than her own baby (bring to question, who is watching their baby?). In terms of possible use, Ling could've served as a playmate for Maggie.
    • Maude Flanders deserves a special mentioning. Given Ned Flanders' reputation as the nicest neighbor in Springfield, and Marge's constant pleading for Homer to be on good terms with him, one would think that Marge and Maude would get along better than their husbands. Unfortunately, Maude is shown as nothing more than an overprotective mother and a religious fundamentalist who is more on par with the gossipy Helen Lovejoy, an has been critical and disapproving of Marge on separate occasions (including a hiring by the Yakuza to stomp out her pretzel business). By Season 11, the writers decide to kill Maude off.

edited 20th Sep '13 12:41:47 AM by Johnny2071

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#8: Jul 31st 2013 at 5:23:03 PM

Yeah, this is a complaining thread. You aren't interested in having a conversation, you only want to complain. Locking it up. Don't make another one, Johnny

edited 31st Jul '13 5:23:49 PM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
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