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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#1: Jul 18th 2013 at 10:09:53 AM

Well, just a blob and a caption, really. The caption says it's this trope but without the caption you'd have no way of knowing that, it's just a formless blob. Motion to pull as JABAAC.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#2: Jul 18th 2013 at 10:36:01 AM

It's not great so let's look for a new one, but it's not worth pulling.

It does have the thought bubble which is something. And, while it is a blob, it's human shaped and it manages to seem like it's suffering, and seems to have no means of communication (made explicit by the thought bubble).

Not perfect by any stretch, but not worth pulling, IMO.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#3: Jul 18th 2013 at 10:47:34 AM

Agree, it's kinda sorta okay.

Could make the thought bubble bigger. Original?

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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#4: Jul 18th 2013 at 11:33:40 AM

Call it the thought bubble or the caption, the text still does all the work; the blob doesn't add anything.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#5: Jul 18th 2013 at 11:46:21 AM

Spark, you've been asked before to provide a suggestion when you make a thread about pulling a page image. In fact, We've been asking that any IP thread about changing a page image for any of the reasons that aren't on the insta-pull list include at least one suggestion in the OP. If you think a page image is bad enough to need replacing, it's only polite to actually put a little effort into finding something you think is better.

edited 18th Jul '13 11:46:31 AM by Madrugada

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#6: Jul 18th 2013 at 11:47:37 AM

Like I said, not all the work. It's still a tortured looking creature with no apparent means to communicate or even do anything.

Any ideas for replacements?

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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#7: Jul 18th 2013 at 12:01:13 PM

Sorry Maddy, but according to the IP rules, JAFAAC is listed under "valid reasons to start a thread", and that page says nothing about mandatory suggestions for replacement. I see similar threads like these quite often without complaints from anyone; they generally result in decent discussion, and IP is not particularly overloaded or backlogged these days. So I'm really not sure why you have a problem with this thread.

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#8: Jul 18th 2013 at 1:06:54 PM

It's the third thread you've made in two days (two within a half-an-hour of each other this morning) with no suggestion. And the Just A Face And A Caption page itself says that a picture can be just "a face, and a caption," without being Just A Face And A Caption.

Someone looking at the current page image does not need to know what the work it's from is, before they can see how it illustrates the trope.

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#9: Jul 18th 2013 at 1:20:57 PM

Subpaged trope; my vote's to move it to the Literature page if we do anything.

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#10: Jul 18th 2013 at 1:25:46 PM

[up][up] People can legitimately disagree about whether an image is JAFAAC or not. I am simply unaware of any Image Pickin' policy that says "you must provide an alternative image when you claim a JAFAAC" or one that says "you may only create X threads per week". If that is to be policy now, all I ask is that you add it to the policy thread and apply it equally to all participants in this forum.

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#12: Jul 18th 2013 at 2:04:06 PM

The image is of a obviously sentient blob that doesn't seem to haqve much movement opportunity. That's not very JAFAAC.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#13: Jul 18th 2013 at 10:00:01 PM

Keep Until Better Image Suggested.

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#14: Jul 19th 2013 at 1:18:20 AM

I also vote to keep until better image suggested. The current image works for me, even without a caption.

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#15: Jul 19th 2013 at 6:31:14 AM

Definitely Keep Until Better Image Suggested

Not perfect, but nowhere near bad enough to pull.

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#16: Jul 19th 2013 at 9:53:10 AM

The current image is not a JAFAAC (people keep Flanderizing that term these days), however I do agree that in its current state it is easily a Does Not Illustrate. IIRC the uncropped version of the same image actually better explains what makes it an example (via more speech/thought bubbles detailing the character's particular fate), however it was large enough that the text is illegible after resizing.

Also for the note: Previous attempts were in November 2010 and February 2011. Both of them were complaining about the exact same image for the exact same reason (so Spark makes three).

I say this deserves discussion of an alternatives, because the Trope Namer is doing it no favors here.

edited 19th Jul '13 10:00:04 AM by Stratadrake

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#17: Jul 19th 2013 at 1:04:31 PM

With that in mind, if we don't find a good replacement, I'd suggest adding a note about not opening yet another thread without a good replacement suggestion.

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Earnest from Monterrey Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#18: Jul 19th 2013 at 2:45:59 PM

I very much like this image, the figure is evocative of the famous "The Scream" painting and looks absolutely pained.

Not discounting there may be better suggestions, I'm on the Keep Until Better Image Suggested end of things on this one.

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#20: Aug 5th 2013 at 2:45:19 PM

Also in favor of keeping. There have been complaints, showing that it's not a perfect image, but nobody can come up with anything better. I maintain that it's still way better than nothing, so I object to any pulling without replacement.

Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#21: Aug 5th 2013 at 4:26:50 PM

Can we close this already. Consensus is keep.

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#22: Aug 5th 2013 at 5:10:30 PM

Yeah, this isn't going anywhere. I'll tag the page and add it to the "don't make a thread without a suggestion" list. Locking up.

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