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Deadlock Clock: Aug 12th 2013 at 11:59:00 PM
Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#1: Jul 17th 2013 at 7:42:27 AM

It's a pretty picture, but there's nothing in the image that indicates she is a mistress. Motion to pull as JAFAAC.

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
DashSpendar Since: Mar, 2013
#3: Jul 17th 2013 at 9:54:51 AM

They could've at least bothered to put her name in the caption. Yank.

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Leaper Since: May, 2009
#4: Jul 17th 2013 at 10:34:12 AM

So... who the hell is she...?

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#5: Jul 17th 2013 at 10:42:50 AM

Apparently a mistress.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#6: Jul 17th 2013 at 10:47:26 AM

Madame de Pompadeur, who probably is the most famous real-life example of the trope. Not terribly recognizable in portrait form, if this topic is any indication.

Still massively JAFAAC, so I vote get rid of it as well.

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japaneseteeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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Melkior Since: Dec, 2011
#8: Jul 18th 2013 at 7:51:50 AM

While I agree this is JAFAAC, I can foresee difficulties in finding a suitable replacement because there's really no commonly known feature of a "mistress" for a picture to show.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#9: Jul 18th 2013 at 7:58:23 AM

Maybe something like a picture of a man with his arm around his wife, but also doing something to indicate that something else is going on with another woman?

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#10: Jul 18th 2013 at 8:01:18 AM

Well, it can't get more complicated than Wicked Stepmother...

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#11: Jul 18th 2013 at 8:11:58 AM

Actually, I now see that Your Cheating Heart has an image pretty much exactly like what I meant.

Honestly, I'm very fuzzy on the difference between the two. The Mistress never really... defines itself. The example in the description of Your Cheating Heart seems to specifically covers The Mistress, in fact.

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Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#12: Jul 18th 2013 at 8:19:20 AM

There appears to be a lot of overlap, yes. I would suggest opening a TRS thread to discuss that.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#13: Jul 18th 2013 at 8:43:21 AM

In the interim I'll open a Trope Talk. Because I really don't get the difference.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#14: Jul 18th 2013 at 10:24:36 AM

The Mistress is a character trope — a person. Your Cheating Heart is a story trope — a plot or situation.

While most situations involving The Mistress are also examples of Your Cheating Heart (I say "most" because it may not be if the marriage is open or the couple is poly), not all examples of Your Cheating Heart involve The Mistress (for example, one-night stands or short flings, or those where the "cheating" is less than a full-on sexual relationship, as is common in works for teens, where kissing or even simply flirting with someone else is treated as "cheating").

It's going to be very difficult to find a good image that conveys 1) He's married to someone else and 2) this is an ongoing relationship, not just a fling or a one-time thing.

edited 18th Jul '13 10:29:12 AM by Madrugada

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lexicon Since: May, 2012
#15: Jul 18th 2013 at 11:58:26 AM

I don't think there's any way to show that it's an ongoing relationship but it would be better to show a character that's young and sexy. He should be in the picture too.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#16: Jul 18th 2013 at 1:08:03 PM

The Mistress doesn't have to be young and sexy.

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#17: Jul 18th 2013 at 1:22:18 PM

Honestly, unless someone can find a lampshade, I'm good to call this a BUPKIS case.

Melkior Since: Dec, 2011
#18: Jul 19th 2013 at 12:41:27 PM

If we do decide to keep the current, I suggest putting a comment on the page mentioning this and previous IP threads. Ask that nobody bring it to IP again without having a replacement to suggest. I don't know how effective it will be but it may help.

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#19: Jul 19th 2013 at 1:24:08 PM

Looking through the examples, I don't see anything that would make a good picture.

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#20: Jul 19th 2013 at 3:48:13 PM

"Ask that nobody bring it to IP again without having a replacement to suggest."

That is always true if the image has a "chosen by IP" comment.

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nitrokitty Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
#21: Jul 19th 2013 at 9:16:15 PM

Can we please not do something like Wicked Stepmother again? That trope page is so unbearably atrocious that I'd hate to see a repeat.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#22: Aug 9th 2013 at 5:03:30 AM

Clock is set. I'm good to pull the pic and go ahead and lock up; any objections?

Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#23: Aug 9th 2013 at 9:39:57 AM

No objections to pulling. I imagine someone will come up with a suggestion eventually.

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lexicon Since: May, 2012
#24: Aug 12th 2013 at 11:44:46 AM

Go ahead and pull.

When a Hot Consort just isn't enough.

She might be a mistress but we can't see that.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#25: Aug 13th 2013 at 6:13:51 AM

The clock is up, and since the only thing we've got consensus on is to pull the current, it's gone. Locking up.

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