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#26: Jul 8th 2013 at 5:30:24 PM

Probably because most works don't try to make "the original author you loved is dead, but we let a rank amateur try to imitate em" into a selling point. "And Another Thing" hints at it in multiple ways (the prominent names of both the old and new author, 'part 6 of 3', the title itself), which is probably as good as we're likely to get.

A cursory GIS didn't turn up any useful advertising for Brandon Sanderson's The Wheel Of Time that would be better.

Unfinished Tales has a suggestive name, I guess.

edited 8th Jul '13 5:31:12 PM by Noaqiyeum

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#27: Jul 8th 2013 at 7:31:33 PM

[up] I like that second one.

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#28: Jul 8th 2013 at 8:32:33 PM

^^ Douglas Adams wrote parts 4 of 3 and 5 of 3, also. And the fourth book is called So Long, and Thanks For All the Fish, diminishing (IMO) the follow-up-soundiness of the title And Another Thing. Not much hint he died before 6 of 3... not good I don't think.

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#29: Jul 8th 2013 at 10:58:22 PM

[up] Someone who knows that much about the series also knows when Douglas Adams died.

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#30: Jul 8th 2013 at 11:08:13 PM

It's not bad, but "people who are familiar with the source will understand it's an example" is not a very strong argument.

I like the second UT cover more though, that name seems much more suggestive of the author being dead:


Although then again that is stuff he wrote while he was alive...

Maybe book covers is barking up the wrong tree?

edited 8th Jul '13 11:11:27 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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#31: Jul 9th 2013 at 9:59:45 AM

[up] Umm, did you forget the point that was in response to? The complete argument was 'people who aren't familiar with the series have enough evidence to conclude it's an example, even if some of that evidence is misleading; people who are familiar enough with the series to know which evidence is misleading already know that it's an example anyway'.

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#32: Jul 9th 2013 at 10:50:15 AM

[up] The way I see it: To someone that is unfamiliar to the series: The name and "6 of 3" make it sound like it's continued after the original author has conclusively stopped writing them altogether.

To someone who isn't familiar with the series: The name and "6 of 3" won't make it seem like it's an example, but it won't cause any harm because he will know anyway.

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#33: Jul 9th 2013 at 11:20:17 PM

^^ I understand and no I didn't forget anything. I get it. That makes sense. But "if the reader is not familiar with the source that detail will make it look like an example, and if they are familiar that detail won't help but they will know it is an example anyway" isn't a strong argument in any circumstances, especially the second part :P Not saying it isn't true, saying it's not convincing.

^ The trope isn't "continued after the original author has conclusively stopped writing them altogether", it is "continued after the original author has died". Tropes Are Flexible and all, but that means something different.

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#34: Jul 10th 2013 at 6:36:21 AM

I think it's a good, convincing argument. It shows that even if something isn't an technically true, it can help illustrate the trope anyway due to appearances, and the knowledge to find out that's not actually the case comes after the knowledge that it's an example anyway.

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#35: Jul 31st 2013 at 8:00:34 AM

Clock is set.

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I still like 30.

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#36: Jul 31st 2013 at 8:21:11 AM

Crowner?

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#38: Jul 31st 2013 at 10:08:51 AM

Crowner!

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#39: Aug 2nd 2013 at 6:21:30 AM

Pre-weekend bump for votes.

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#40: Aug 5th 2013 at 6:19:24 AM

One more bump...if the votes/ratios hold steady, I think we can call this one tomorrow.

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#41: Aug 6th 2013 at 4:12:01 AM

Calling this one. The new pic's up and tagged; I'll pothole it in a sec. Caption or no?

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