I thought about it and I believe it is a good start. There are a few things that concern me
1. The first paragraph is entirely about Damsel in Distress and sounds like a Take That. We should talk about this trope straight away.
2. We should develop the character aspect of this trope so that it will no longer be confused with Badass in Distress. That was one of the starting points for this thread.
I think the description sounds different from Badass in Distress. I do agree that we should talk about this trope straight away. I think the second paragraph is so well written we can just cut the first paragraph.
We could do that. I mean, I did realize I was doing the 'Here is what the trope is not' thing in the first paragraph, but I thought since the trope was pretty reactionary towards Damsel in Distress that might make it okay. Anyway, if we did that, I think it would need to be tweaked a little. I'd like to see more opinions before I go ahead and do that.
Bumbing because I want to move this along. We need to come to an agreement about the new description so we can replace the current and rename. I put my own spin on the sandbox and I'd like opinos about it.
I agree. It was good the way it was except cut the first paragraph. The new first line doesn't make sense. She doesn't need to be sweet or anything. She gets captured and she frees or almost frees herself.
Bumb for the second time. I'm looking for a response.
1. The new definition, as is stands, does nothing to distinguish itself from character tropes like Action Girl or Badass in Distress.
2. The new definition, as is stands, does nothing to distinguish itself from plot tropes like Redundant Rescue.
I tried to address these issues and my changes were wiped out.
Description had all this stuff about being badass and cool and not even having to be kidnapped.
Changed the description to match the new definition:
"Damsel who escapes on her own"
A little rough and barebones, but it can be expanded later. Now lets move it over to the new name and clean up examples.
Moved to Damsel out of Distress.
Currently Badass Damsel redirects to it, but once we rename all the occurrences we should consider if we should redirect it elsewhere.
Still need to cleanup examples.
We also need to create Defiant Captive (or whatever we decided to call it).
About Defiant Captive, maybe some of the examples on I'm Not Hungry should be looked at because its TRS discussion pointed out that the examples would better apply to resistance to captivity in general.
Is anyone currently writing a definition for Defiant Captive (or whatever we chose to call it)?
Alternative Titles: Badass Damsel
11th Sep '13 12:32:48 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.