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Does Not Illustrate (runoff crowner 8/20/13): Genre Savvy get usage counts

[up] I vote 75.2. It illustrates the trope clearly enough for me.

edited 9th Jul '13 3:30:22 AM by Melkior

Absent-minded professor and Neverwinter Nights DM
[up] But he knows he shouldn't be doing it - and expresses as much - yet does it anyway. Wouldn't that just be Lampshade Hanging?
 
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75.2 has good art going for it, but 75.1 is a much straighter example. I do love those suggestions at least as much as the Order of the Stick one I've been favoring until now.

I still do not like the gun and pencil one and never will. To me, it will always just be a guy holding up a gun with a pencil, not showing that he's doing it because he knows the genre he's in.
I must be cruel, but to be kind That bad may begin, and worse be left behind
[up][up] I think the line between Lampshade Hanging and Genre Savvy is going to be rather blurred so we'll probably have to accept a bit of greyness in the separation.
Absent-minded professor and Neverwinter Nights DM
I always understood Lampshade Hanging as the act of highlighting something - be it a trope or otherwise - by the medium, be it through its characters or other element. In contrast, Genre Savvy is an attribute possessed specifically by a character in which s/he is aware how something would typically pan out in fiction given a similar situation, and thus react accordingly - e.g. if something bad would result, would try to avoid it or if something good would result, would deliberately try to invoke it.

Which to me are two very different things.
 
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Most genre savvy characters that come to mind hang lampshades on the tropes they're trying to avoid as they do so anyway.
I must be cruel, but to be kind That bad may begin, and worse be left behind
I believe the only way to show this as illustration and not text is to have the character have something going on while we can see a book or tv in the background as if the story he read or watched is putting ideas into his head.

 83 infalliableliar, Tue, 23rd Jul '13 2:19:01 AM from Future nothing Location
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Do you think a recut of the last few panels on this page could work?
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 84 Another Duck, Tue, 23rd Jul '13 2:28:22 AM from Stockholm Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
Isn't that more invoked? I mean, they're not in an action flick, and it's not so much knowing about what will happen as much as making it happen on purpose because it's cool.

edited 23rd Jul '13 2:29:44 AM by AnotherDuck

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 85 infalliableliar, Tue, 23rd Jul '13 2:53:17 AM from Future nothing Location
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Dodging a fireball isn't limited to action movies, the savy part would be knowing you will be able to survive a fireball by jumping is being genre savy.

Or maybe it isn't, it's late and I always get heads in pant retarded when it's late. I will probably disagree with me in the morning.
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 86 Willbyr, Tue, 23rd Jul '13 3:56:42 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Anime-ted
Yeah, I think that's more Rule of Cool than anything.
I still say 75.2 and I think panel 4 by itself illustrates the trope well enough.

I know it's not a great pic, but I think it's good enough for Use Until Better Image Suggested.
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 88 m8e, Tue, 23rd Jul '13 5:13:19 AM from Sweden Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
Lampshading that you are doing something stupid might show genre awareness, but it doesn't show savviness. Lampshading it actually make it worse as that is Tempting Fate, and that's bad in any genre.
Carpe by all means diem, but not all diem are worth carpe.
Whether or not there is consensus to use any of the suggestions, I think the current image should be removed from the page. It is just a talking head (torso?), the art adds little or nothing to the speech bubbles. It is not a clear example anyway.

At least he grabbed a weapon.

edited 27th Jul '13 2:10:28 AM by rodneyAnonymous

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 90 Rethkir, Sat, 27th Jul '13 10:43:53 AM from the gap between dimensions Relationship Status: Singularity
Agree to pull.

 92 Willbyr, Sat, 27th Jul '13 2:46:53 PM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Anime-ted
+1 to pull.
Petting Zoo Person
Agree to pull.
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 94 Robin Zimm, Wed, 7th Aug '13 1:01:50 PM from East Coast US Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
*wanders in off the street*

Pull. It's way too big, even without its other faults. 75.2, Panel 4 only, would be a lot better.
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 95 Rethkir, Wed, 7th Aug '13 1:22:04 PM from the gap between dimensions Relationship Status: Singularity
Pulled. Yeuch...
At least he grabbed a weapon.

 97 Willbyr, Tue, 13th Aug '13 1:18:34 PM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Anime-ted
[up] I'm thinking crowner.
[up][up]Huh, didn't know BUPKIS was actually an acronym, or that there was a shortcut for Keep Until Better Image Suggested. If I had ever voted that way before now I probably would have spelled it out.

edited 13th Aug '13 1:20:31 PM by MorganWick

 99 m8e, Tue, 13th Aug '13 1:32:12 PM from Sweden Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
Another suggestion:

Carpe by all means diem, but not all diem are worth carpe.
 100 Robin Zimm, Tue, 13th Aug '13 1:57:50 PM from East Coast US Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I vote crowner, too (including the new suggestion, of course).
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Image Pickin: Genre Savvy Runoff
20th Aug '13 5:46:37 AM
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