Ambiguous Name (Titles Crowner 7/6): Never Trust A Trope

"Trope" as a placeholder again, as well as a Stock Phrase-sounding title. The actual trope described is "Character has a belief that people from [group X] are untrustworthy".

edited 5th Jun '13 4:12:48 PM by Pig_catapult

Terrible stats for such a common trope, and the page's own examples just use it as a stock phrase. Do we have this elsewhere under a different name?

They are The Untrustworthy! That sounds more like a film title.

I support a rename for above reasons, by the way.

The title also sounds like a Trope Trope that a trope's use does not guarantee goodness, like Tropes Are Tools. It's very non-indicative. I support renaming as well.

Well, since it seems to be based on the stock phrase "Never trust an X", so why don't we call it Never Trust An X.

Also, there aren't nearly enough examples for folders. I'm removing them.

edited 5th Jun '13 10:34:52 PM by Rethkir

Rename this. I am not clear on what the current name means, anyhow.

Well, we already have Chronic Backstabbing Disorder for untrustworthy characters, and a whole index of Betrayal Tropes. The only purpose this trope seems to serve is to use the phrase.

The difference between this and Chronic Backstabbing Disorder is that the latter is focused on the betrayer's perspective. Never Trust A Trope also doesn't require betrayal, apparently.

This is totally different from CBD. This is more about one person's prejudice. They're not necessarily actually untrustworthy, just untrusted.

I'd go with Doesnt Trust The X for a name. Going with Never Trust An X makes it seem like X is actually untrustworthy, leading to the confusion we've already seen in this topic. Plus it'd be a stock phrase.

edited 6th Jun '13 7:13:42 AM by Larkmarn

Or Doesnt Trust An Ex - it's about distrusting members of a specific group.

I assume you mean Doesnt Trust An X, as Doesnt Trust An Ex sounds like a whole nother trope.

Ha ha... right.

Though I would support a suitable descriptive word rather than "X." This shouldn't be a page about inserting words into a phrase (though that's exactly what the page's current examples do).

Me too, but I can't think of a decent descriptive word since it covers pretty much anything.

It's about a character's distrust of a specific group. The lead gives examples of the group: "ethnicity/species/nationality/religion/blood type or what-have-you." So I'd recommend Doesnt Trust A Group.

Most of the examples seem to be using this as just a Stock Phrase (as Amy Gdala said).

edited 6th Jun '13 9:26:56 AM by Prfnoff

I like it. Easy to remember.

Ditto.

Bumping, since there is a crowner now.

Calling for the rename.

edited 5th Jul '13 9:31:50 PM by Willbyr

So do we branstorm alternate names?

I suggest Untrustworthy Group Accusation.

Ugh. Too clinical. The aforementioned Doesnt Trust A Group gets my vote.

I like that one.

Titles crowner's hooked and noted in the thread title.

The problem with Never Trust Those Guys is it's either saying they're legitimately untrustworthy (which isn't this trope) or it's dialog

Oh, hey, I hadn't voted. to Doesnt Trust A Group, to the others.