Ambiguous Name (Titles Crowner 7/6): Never Trust A Trope get usage counts

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Piffy
"Trope" as a placeholder again, as well as a Stock Phrase-sounding title. The actual trope described is "Character has a belief that people from [group X] are untrustworthy".

edited 5th Jun '13 4:12:48 PM by Pig_catapult

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Terrible stats for such a common trope, and the page's own examples just use it as a stock phrase. Do we have this elsewhere under a different name?
3 AnotherDuck5th Jun 2013 05:06:27 PM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: Chocolate!
No, the other one.
They are The Untrustworthy! That sounds more like a film title.

I support a rename for above reasons, by the way.
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The title also sounds like a Trope Trope that a trope's use does not guarantee goodness, like Tropes Are Tools. It's very non-indicative. I support renaming as well.
5 Rethkir5th Jun 2013 10:32:22 PM from the gap between dimensions
Well, since it seems to be based on the stock phrase "Never trust an X", so why don't we call it Never Trust An X.

Also, there aren't nearly enough examples for folders. I'm removing them.

edited 5th Jun '13 10:34:52 PM by Rethkir

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6 SeptimusHeap6th Jun 2013 12:22:14 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Rename this. I am not clear on what the current name means, anyhow.
7 Rethkir6th Jun 2013 07:03:21 AM from the gap between dimensions
Well, we already have Chronic Backstabbing Disorder for untrustworthy characters, and a whole index of Betrayal Tropes. The only purpose this trope seems to serve is to use the phrase.
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8 SeptimusHeap6th Jun 2013 07:06:46 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
The difference between this and Chronic Backstabbing Disorder is that the latter is focused on the betrayer's perspective. Never Trust A Trope also doesn't require betrayal, apparently.
9 Larkmarn6th Jun 2013 07:11:56 AM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
This is totally different from CBD. This is more about one person's prejudice. They're not necessarily actually untrustworthy, just untrusted.

I'd go with Doesnt Trust The X for a name. Going with Never Trust An X makes it seem like X is actually untrustworthy, leading to the confusion we've already seen in this topic. Plus it'd be a stock phrase.

edited 6th Jun '13 7:13:42 AM by Larkmarn

Or Doesnt Trust An Ex - it's about distrusting members of a specific group.
11 Larkmarn6th Jun 2013 07:26:39 AM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
I assume you mean Doesnt Trust An X, as Doesnt Trust An Ex sounds like a whole nother trope.
Ha ha... right.

Though I would support a suitable descriptive word rather than "X." This shouldn't be a page about inserting words into a phrase (though that's exactly what the page's current examples do).
13 Larkmarn6th Jun 2013 08:26:52 AM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Me too, but I can't think of a decent descriptive word since it covers pretty much anything.
It's about a character's distrust of a specific group. The lead gives examples of the group: "ethnicity/species/nationality/religion/blood type or what-have-you." So I'd recommend Doesnt Trust A Group.
Most of the examples seem to be using this as just a Stock Phrase (as Amy Gdala said).

edited 6th Jun '13 9:26:56 AM by Prfnoff

16 StarSword6th Jun 2013 02:46:53 PM from somewhere in deep space , Relationship Status: In denial
Piffy
[up]Ditto.
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18 SeptimusHeap12th Jun 2013 03:54:31 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Bumping, since there is a crowner now.
19 Willbyr5th Jul 2013 09:31:42 PM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
With Mod Hat On
Calling for the rename.

edited 5th Jul '13 9:31:50 PM by Willbyr

So do we branstorm alternate names?

I suggest Untrustworthy Group Accusation.
21 Larkmarn5th Jul 2013 11:10:25 PM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Ugh. Too clinical. The aforementioned Doesnt Trust A Group gets my vote.
[tup] I like that one.
23 Willbyr6th Jul 2013 06:39:40 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
With Mod Hat On
Titles crowner's hooked and noted in the thread title.
24 Larkmarn6th Jul 2013 10:11:42 AM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
The problem with Never Trust Those Guys is it's either saying they're legitimately untrustworthy (which isn't this trope) or it's dialog
25 StarSword6th Jul 2013 11:12:08 AM from somewhere in deep space , Relationship Status: In denial
SF-81A Black Knight
Oh, hey, I hadn't voted. [tup] to Doesnt Trust A Group, [tdown] to the others.

Alternative Titles: Never Trust A Trope
6th Jul '13 1:16:37 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.
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