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Ambiguous Name (Titles Crowner 7/6): Never Trust A Trope get usage counts

Piffy
"Trope" as a placeholder again, as well as a Stock Phrase-sounding title. The actual trope described is "Character has a belief that people from [group X] are untrustworthy".

edited 5th Jun '13 4:12:48 PM by Pig_catapult

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Terrible stats for such a common trope, and the page's own examples just use it as a stock phrase. Do we have this elsewhere under a different name?

 3 Another Duck, Wed, 5th Jun '13 5:06:27 PM from Stockholm Relationship Status: Chocolate!
No, the other one.
They are The Untrustworthy! That sounds more like a film title.

I support a rename for above reasons, by the way.
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The title also sounds like a Trope Trope that a trope's use does not guarantee goodness, like Tropes Are Tools. It's very non-indicative. I support renaming as well.

 5 Rethkir, Wed, 5th Jun '13 10:32:22 PM from the gap between dimensions Relationship Status: Singularity
Well, since it seems to be based on the stock phrase "Never trust an X", so why don't we call it Never Trust An X.

Also, there aren't nearly enough examples for folders. I'm removing them.

edited 5th Jun '13 10:34:52 PM by Rethkir

 6 Septimus Heap, Thu, 6th Jun '13 12:22:14 AM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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Rename this. I am not clear on what the current name means, anyhow.

 7 Rethkir, Thu, 6th Jun '13 7:03:21 AM from the gap between dimensions Relationship Status: Singularity
Well, we already have Chronic Backstabbing Disorder for untrustworthy characters, and a whole index of Betrayal Tropes. The only purpose this trope seems to serve is to use the phrase.

 8 Septimus Heap, Thu, 6th Jun '13 7:06:46 AM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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The difference between this and Chronic Backstabbing Disorder is that the latter is focused on the betrayer's perspective. Never Trust A Trope also doesn't require betrayal, apparently.

 9 Larkmarn, Thu, 6th Jun '13 7:11:56 AM Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
This is totally different from CBD. This is more about one person's prejudice. They're not necessarily actually untrustworthy, just untrusted.

I'd go with Doesnt Trust The X for a name. Going with Never Trust An X makes it seem like X is actually untrustworthy, leading to the confusion we've already seen in this topic. Plus it'd be a stock phrase.

edited 6th Jun '13 7:13:42 AM by Larkmarn

Or Doesnt Trust An Ex - it's about distrusting members of a specific group.

 11 Larkmarn, Thu, 6th Jun '13 7:26:39 AM Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
I assume you mean Doesnt Trust An X, as Doesnt Trust An Ex sounds like a whole nother trope.

Ha ha... right.

Though I would support a suitable descriptive word rather than "X." This shouldn't be a page about inserting words into a phrase (though that's exactly what the page's current examples do).

 13 Larkmarn, Thu, 6th Jun '13 8:26:52 AM Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Me too, but I can't think of a decent descriptive word since it covers pretty much anything.

It's about a character's distrust of a specific group. The lead gives examples of the group: "ethnicity/species/nationality/religion/blood type or what-have-you." So I'd recommend Doesnt Trust A Group.

Most of the examples seem to be using this as just a Stock Phrase (as Amy Gdala said).

edited 6th Jun '13 9:26:56 AM by Prfnoff

 16 StarSword, Thu, 6th Jun '13 2:46:53 PM from somewhere in deep space Relationship Status: In denial
Piffy
[up]Ditto.
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 18 Septimus Heap, Wed, 12th Jun '13 3:54:31 AM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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Bumping, since there is a crowner now.

 19 Willbyr, Fri, 5th Jul '13 9:31:42 PM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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Calling for the rename.

edited 5th Jul '13 9:31:50 PM by Willbyr

So do we branstorm alternate names?

I suggest Untrustworthy Group Accusation.

 21 Larkmarn, Fri, 5th Jul '13 11:10:25 PM Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Ugh. Too clinical. The aforementioned Doesnt Trust A Group gets my vote.

[tup] I like that one.

 23 Willbyr, Sat, 6th Jul '13 6:39:40 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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Titles crowner's hooked and noted in the thread title.
 24 Larkmarn, Sat, 6th Jul '13 10:11:42 AM Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
The problem with Never Trust Those Guys is it's either saying they're legitimately untrustworthy (which isn't this trope) or it's dialog

 25 StarSword, Sat, 6th Jul '13 11:12:08 AM from somewhere in deep space Relationship Status: In denial
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Oh, hey, I hadn't voted. [tup] to Doesnt Trust A Group, [tdown] to the others.

Alternative Titles: Never Trust A Trope
6th Jul '13 1:16:37 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the name will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of Crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative names.
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