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MikuruFan from Away Since: Nov, 2012
#1: Jun 4th 2013 at 6:41:24 AM

Everything above the examples is a mess. I think it's supposed to be about fandoms gaining a large LGBT fandom, but the description just repeats that it doesn't have to be unintentional and is not written in good English.

The laconic version actually contradicts the main definition. It says that something is beloved by gays, suggesting that it's something within the work, not the work itself.

The image is of David and Jonathan with a caption, which doesn't illustrate the trope well. It seems to be Just A Face And A Caption.

The ambiguous name is a problem as well. It's not a Relationship Writing Fumble and doesn't have to be unintentional, so it doesn't fit into the X Yay Snowclone family. Together with the unclear description, it sounds like people think the fans are gay than that they actually are.

I suggest alternate titles of Homosexual Demographic and LGBT Demographic, and a rewrite of the description so that it keeps the notes of intentionality to the very end of the description. The speculation can be moved to the Analysis page.

edited 4th Jun '13 6:41:41 AM by MikuruFan

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2: Jun 4th 2013 at 6:49:48 AM

This seems like it's snowcloned off Ho Yay, but without a thought for the actual description. The image also illustrates Ho Yay and nothing else.

Rename this, pronto.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
There is no Planet B
#3: Jun 4th 2013 at 7:17:15 AM

I'd support the rename, and some improvement of the description as well.

Spark9 Gentleman Troper! from Castle Wulfenbach Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#4: Jun 4th 2013 at 9:04:29 AM

I concur.

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AmyGdala Since: Oct, 2012
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
Captain of USS Bajor
#7: Jun 4th 2013 at 10:07:04 AM

This seems like Periphery Demographic But More Specific, actually. My vote would be to merge it.

XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
There is no Planet B
#8: Jun 4th 2013 at 11:59:16 AM

[up] I think I disagree there with you. I think eager interest from LGBT communities is distinct enough and might deserve its own audience-reaction page.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#9: Jun 4th 2013 at 12:05:09 PM

[up][up]Well, he's definitely not wrong about what it is. The question is whether it's significant enough to deserve its own spin-off.

Honestly, I think it's fine to keep it. Just rename it and clean up the description some.

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StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
Captain of USS Bajor
#10: Jun 4th 2013 at 12:42:42 PM

So, valid subtrope, then?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#11: Jun 4th 2013 at 12:48:16 PM

I am neutral on a merge.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MissKitten Luminescent Blush Since: Jul, 2012
#12: Jun 4th 2013 at 1:01:25 PM

A rename and an improved description is fine with me.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#13: Jun 13th 2013 at 6:12:22 AM

Bumping for votes. The tally is:

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
AmyGdala Since: Oct, 2012
#14: Jun 13th 2013 at 6:36:32 AM

In its current state, this is about a work that develops a definitive LGBT demographic. This does not have to be unintentional, as bolded text emphasizes. So this is not a subtrope of Periphery Demographic.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#15: Jun 29th 2013 at 7:52:10 AM

Calling for the rename.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#16: Jun 29th 2013 at 7:54:45 AM

Alt Names. I have found only one name here, so far.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MikuruFan from Away Since: Nov, 2012
#17: Jun 29th 2013 at 8:02:06 AM

Added two. One of which was in the first post.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#18: Jun 29th 2013 at 3:08:24 PM

Titles crowner's hooked.

AmyGdala Since: Oct, 2012
#19: Jun 29th 2013 at 5:18:45 PM

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edited 29th Jun '13 5:18:59 PM by AmyGdala

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#20: Jul 9th 2013 at 4:54:47 AM

Bump for votes. Right now, LGBT Fanbase is the only one in the green but only 5-3.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
PancticeSquadCutterback This is Rain. Isn't she pretty? :) from Georgia (the one the devil went to, not Russia) Since: Feb, 2012
This is Rain. Isn't she pretty? :)
#21: Jul 9th 2013 at 12:19:48 PM

I want to say Gay Yay, but that's already a redirect to Ho Yay. I put it on the list anyway.

edited 9th Jul '13 12:20:44 PM by PancticeSquadCutterback

I'm not LGBT. I just think Rain's really cool. Apologies if my humor gets too painful.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#22: Jul 9th 2013 at 12:23:53 PM

Thumbed it down, since a) it's unclear and b) the Audience Reaction covers the whole LGBT spectrum, not just male homosexuality.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
PancticeSquadCutterback This is Rain. Isn't she pretty? :) from Georgia (the one the devil went to, not Russia) Since: Feb, 2012
This is Rain. Isn't she pretty? :)
#23: Jul 9th 2013 at 12:28:18 PM

I had half a mind to put "Rainbow Brigade" on there, but that's even less clear.

I'm not LGBT. I just think Rain's really cool. Apologies if my humor gets too painful.
StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
Captain of USS Bajor
#24: Jul 9th 2013 at 1:58:35 PM

Agree with Gay Yay being unclear.

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#25: Jul 9th 2013 at 3:57:58 PM

The more I look at this, the more I'm not sure if it's really tropeworthy.

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8th Jun '13 3:19:55 AM

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What would be the best way to fix the page?

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