The President's Daughter or Living MacGuffin specifically? From the description alone it basically sounds like a Living MacGuffin except that its a young child. Perhaps this trope should be merged? Or Cut?
Gentleman Troper!I'm not seeing any distinction here, no.
Special trousers. Very heroic.
Another Wizard boyThis came up in the Trope Description Improvement Drive. I would just dump this article.
No, the other one.It looks like a mystical version of The President's Daughter. Which is a distinction I don't see a reason for making. Move examples, cut page?
Gentleman Troper!I agree.
Special trousers. Very heroic.
The description looks exactly like The President's Daughter. I support cut and merge.
Yeah, cut and merge.
PiffyCut and merge.
Because underscores break everything: Working link to my Troper page
There are only 38 wicks. We could change them all without having to make a redirect.
Dragon WriterAs names go The President's Daughter is definitely one of those that I will never respect, because it's named directly after only one version of itself, when the actual definition is cosmetically broader.
edited 28th May '13 5:44:31 PM by Stratadrake
Oh, here's the difference: The President's Daughter is always female. Holy Child is not.
edited 28th May '13 7:13:06 PM by Rethkir
No, the other one.It's in the lump of "women and children". Someone innocent who needs protecting. I'd support a rename of The President's Daughter if that trope had significant misuse.
Dragon WriterIMHO a Holy Child is much more of a "thing" than The President's Daughter. TPD isn't desirable for who they are, but instead used to manipulate the ones responsible over them. HC can go either way — they might actually have powers or value beyond their connections.
edited 28th May '13 7:10:37 PM by Stratadrake
No, the other one.I can see a difference between one being important for what they are and possibly what powers they have, and the other for what connections they have. I don't think the descriptions support that, though.
Dragon WriterThere's also that a Holy Child is also frequently a Chosen One of some flavor. No such thing with TPD.
Holy Child is basically someone who is sought after because of what they are? Don't we already have a trope for that?
Another Wizard boyMacGuffin Girl, but only ignoring the "transformation" bit.
Another Wizard boyThat for me looks more like a person that is physically searched, not like a MacGuffin.
Another Wizard boyI do not think we have consensus here, but I can't check as the connection keeps crawling.
I oppose merging this. Is anyone going to suggest doing something with this page that isn't merging and purging?
Another Wizard boyWell, for one thing, you may propose something yourself instead of demanding it from us. I may recommit for keeping this, but I would have to analyze a bit further.
edited 23rd Jun '13 10:14:46 AM by SeptimusHeap
I don't have a change to propose, but it wasn't me who said this page "Needs Help."
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