Needs Help (Runoff crowner 7/07/13): Chaste Teens get usage counts

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1 Larkmarn20th May 2013 08:06:42 AM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Is there a reason this trope is Anime-only? Seems like it could easily be extended to all media.

It's especially weird since it's given as the opposite as Hormone-Addled Teenager on that page, yet that's a multimedia trope.
2 SeptimusHeap20th May 2013 08:09:18 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
Nope, but we'll need some non-Anime examples to prop that up.

Also, is this about Romance or Sex?
3 Rethkir20th May 2013 08:12:11 AM from the gap between dimensions
I don't see any reason why it should be Anime only. Media-specific tropes should have a good reason for being media-specific, and this doesn't.
[up] As said, it would be nice to see some examples.
[down] Good point. It does seem like a subtrope.

edited 20th May '13 8:14:38 AM by Rethkir

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4 Larkmarn20th May 2013 08:12:53 AM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
Well, pretty much every teenaged example in No Hugging, No Kissing would apply.

In fact, Chaste Teens could very well be considered a Teenaged subtrope of NHNK, I believe.
5 Spark920th May 2013 08:36:31 AM from Castle Wulfenbach , Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
Given the small amount of examples here, perhaps we should just merge it into NHNK.
Special trousers. Very heroic.
I think there's a meaningful distinction, but I agree that the usage stats are pretty low. Wouldn't be opposed to a merge.

edited 20th May '13 8:55:46 AM by Discar

7 Rethkir20th May 2013 09:09:02 AM from the gap between dimensions
Eh, I'm fine with a merge.
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8 Larkmarn20th May 2013 01:13:43 PM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
My only issue with a merge is that it would eliminate Chaste Teens as the opposite of Hormone Addled Teenagers.

Which, admittedly, it isn't at the moment anyway due to being an anime-only trope. But I do think there is some value in being able to point to it and say "these tropes are perfect opposites."
But does this exist outside Anime?

Of course there are examples of non-Anime shows where teens have no romantic plots, but it that a trend or just a meaningless occasional aversion? This page notes the specific trend whereby Anime exclude romance to maintain the fantasy of innocence to make the girls more appealing to a specific type of viewer.
10 Pig_catapult20th May 2013 02:30:15 PM , Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Piffy
[up]If what you're stating is the case, we need a serious name change.
Because underscores break everything: Working link to my Troper page
The proposed expansion to other media would make it so that it's No Hugging, No Kissing, only for teens. The trope does have a purpose, though said purpose would be better applied to a trope about averting romance in a show with an Improbably Female Cast/Cast Full of Pretty Boys.
12 RJSavoy21st May 2013 01:23:33 PM from Edinburgh , Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Reymmă
We could define it as the intersection of NHNK and heavy reminders to the audience of the characters' sexual potential (character aesthetic, plenty of mutual affection and concern, some relationships follow romantic conventions such as jerk-tsundere, beach episode and so on).

Could that be kept objective?
13 Pig_catapult21st May 2013 06:26:41 PM , Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Piffy
[up]So, what you're saying is, basically NHNK played for fanservice?
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14 nrjxll21st May 2013 10:47:37 PM , Relationship Status: Not war
Also, is this about Romance or Sex?

Has this actually been answered yet?
Probably romance more often than sex, though I guess I can see the point of the distinction. You could easily portray teenagers in a relationship who don't seem to have or pursue sex despite being, well, teenagers.
The page repeatedly says that there's no romance. Also they're "not getting any attention from the opposite sex." There's no sex or romance.
17 Larkmarn22nd May 2013 06:44:29 AM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
So yeah, Chaste Teens seems like a specific subtrope of NHNK that is done specifically with teens to maintain their "purity" almost and ironically make the characters more appealing, while NHNK doesn't have a specific reason but normally is due to Moral Guardians or appealing to demographics that don't like romance.

I can understand keeping the Chaste Teens trope as separate, but it's going to need a rename. Chastity Appeal?
That implies that chastity as a whole is played as fanservice.
19 SeptimusHeap23rd May 2013 06:43:19 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
I throw in Celibate Teens since Chaste Teens for me looks like it's about sexual activity.
20 SeptimusHeap12th Jun 2013 05:23:15 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
OK, one more bump. There are two contradicting ideas here - merge into No Hugging, No Kissing or keep it a subtrope and rename.

Worth making a crowner?
21 Willbyr12th Jun 2013 05:41:46 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Anime-ted
[up] Go for it.
22 Willbyr12th Jun 2013 06:24:01 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
With Mod Hat On
Crowner's hooked.
23 kiukiuclk12th Jun 2013 07:49:45 AM from 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693 , Relationship Status: My TiMER is ticking
Could you just make this an redirct for NHNK? I like having it as the opposite of Hormone-Addled Teenager, and the name actually isn't bad. But it doesn't seem to be worth mentioning as a separate trope. Maybe just add a few lines to NHNK.

"This can be especially odd with a teenage cast, were it stands out in comparison to the way teens normally are."

Or something like that.

edit: Yeah, should be redirect. Sorry about that.

edited 12th Jun '13 8:20:44 AM by kiukiuclk

24 SeptimusHeap12th Jun 2013 07:51:57 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another Wizard boy
There is no such thing as an "alias". Are you thinking of a redirect.
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
[up] You forgot to include in the crowner that Chaste Teens would be turned into a subtrope. I've been told that editing the crowner option invalidates the votes that were cast for it.

Single Proposition: Chaste Teens Runoff
7th Jul '13 4:17:08 PM
Vote up for yes, down for no.
At issue:
This is a runoff crowner for this crowner.

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