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Noaqiyeum Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they) from the gentle and welcoming dark (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#126: Jul 2nd 2013 at 4:51:28 PM

Mystical or otherworldly does not have to be magical or supernatural, and the new description specifically refers to its existence in science fiction.

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edited 2nd Jul '13 4:59:29 PM by Noaqiyeum

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#127: Jul 3rd 2013 at 3:06:34 AM

Mystical or otherworldly does not have to be magical or supernatural, and the new description specifically refers to its existence in science fiction.
... That's odd. I could've sworn the description looked more unclear on that the last time I looked at it.

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edited 3rd Jul '13 3:14:32 AM by MarqFJA

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lexicon Since: May, 2012
#129: Jul 3rd 2013 at 9:00:15 AM

Did we ever agree to take away the part on the page where it says that blonde counts?

MikuruFan from Away Since: Nov, 2012
#130: Jul 3rd 2013 at 9:02:57 AM

It says that? What the heck?

Remove it.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#131: Jul 6th 2013 at 1:41:20 PM

Should we start gathering examples from White Hair, Black Heart soon? White Hair, Black Heart has a whole section on "exceptions and subversions", and some would fit better on Mystical White Hair.

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#132: Jul 7th 2013 at 12:26:32 PM

[up] Goddammit, that was supposed to have been erased-it's a leftover from when that trope was basically any white-haired bishie.

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#133: Jul 8th 2013 at 1:26:06 AM

Any disagreement with cutting that section wholesale? I can already see "white haired and nice" material in there.

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#135: Jul 8th 2013 at 5:48:54 AM

Further analysis confirmed my first impression, so I sent that section to the glue factory.

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#136: Jul 8th 2013 at 9:47:42 AM

Geez. Pretty much every folder on this page needs to be alphabetized. And some Zero Context Examples and "White hair and Pretty" examples need commenting out. I got the Anime And Manga section done. Going to take a crack at some other sections later. I wouldn't mind some help though.

edited 8th Jul '13 9:48:53 AM by xanderiskander

helterskelter Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#137: Jul 30th 2013 at 12:42:11 PM

There's one aspect we didn't address: the fact that a work with You Gotta Have Blue Hair almost certainly discredits this trope, the way it discredits Significant Green-Eyed Redhead. Having white hair when similar characters have green, purple, blue, pink and so on hair is unlikely to indicate anything, unless perhaps the character is also a Mystical Waif.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#138: Jul 30th 2013 at 1:17:00 PM

I wouldn't say that. Unnatural hair colors have certain associations with them. Pink tends to indicate passion and vitality, purple is dignity and aloofness, blue is calm or shy, etc. White, in this case, frequently means either that the character is mystic in some way or evil.

edited 30th Jul '13 4:21:20 PM by Arha

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#139: Jul 30th 2013 at 1:22:36 PM

Honestly, in settings where You Gotta Have Blue Hair is common, hair colors tend to be MORE indicative of personality.

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helterskelter Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#140: Jul 30th 2013 at 3:08:54 PM

True....and white hair definitely has that mystical connotation in Japan. I suppose its just easy for someone to attempt to assign a mystical trait to a girl with white hair in an anime, where a character is much more likely to have white hair and not fit the trope. That would be plain misuse, though.

lexicon Since: May, 2012
#141: Jul 30th 2013 at 9:31:23 PM

That's where having good context comes in. How do we tell that this character with white hair is mystical and this character with blue hair is shy? I think the only hair color tropes we have for anime is for blue and white hair (and rose but that one's unclear). Maybe should have more.

edited 30th Jul '13 9:34:58 PM by lexicon

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#142: Aug 4th 2013 at 9:35:43 AM

For the record, You Gotta Have Blue Hair mentions "indicate personality" and "is unique" among possible reasons for why an artist may resort to the trope, with the first subsequently noting that emotionless characters frequently have blue or white hair. Maybe we should have general Hair Color Equals Personality and Implausible Hair Color Equals Uniqueness tropes (pending a better name for the last one) that are subtropes of You Gotta Have Blue Hair, or alternatively Appearance Equals Personality and Implausible Appearance Equals Uniqueness to avoid limiting this to hair colors unnecessarily.

edited 4th Aug '13 9:40:12 AM by MarqFJA

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#143: Aug 18th 2013 at 7:24:13 PM

I finally managed to finish all of White-Haired Pretty Girl's wicks. Since there doesn't appear to be anything else to do, I'll holler for a lock.

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4th May '13 8:38:11 PM

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White Haired Pretty Girl currently is defined as:

  • Female
  • Pretty
  • White-haired
  • "White locks mark their owner as special in some way"

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