We Need to Clear Memory in Yack Fest Additional Information Here

How come I can't access those threads already? Like this one?

This just goes for Yack Fest? There are no other sub-foras right now that are going to lose older topics?

Okay. It's just that I've got an RPG over in Role Playing that I haven't finished archiving yet, so I just have to make sure it won't be gone when I wake up...

Threads I think are significant enough to save: The Nunnery, Troper Updates, A Single Unified LGBT Thread.

I'm torn between The Trash Heap and Random Thoughts. They're essentially the exact same thread overall. Random crap of little importance. I know the Trash Heap kind of has a group of Tropers, almost like a Club, if you will, although I don't know if Random Thoughts has one. I'd say keep either of those, if we have to remove redundant threads.

I don't see any current reason to remove the Roleplaying section, although eventually, if needed, some closed games can go(atleast the 100% dead sign-ups and Discussion threads for starters).

The Imperium of Man Comes to Gensokyo is a currently locked RPG that has not had any activity since December 7th 2010. However, the reason for this is that it's finished and we are currently playing a sequel. We really need the original content that's in there for building on the sequel, since not all of the original players are around any more and joint memory can only go so far. I've been working on archiving it in Word, but it's not yet finished (because the machine I was saving it on conked out). If you can just spare it for a couple of days, I'll get the other players together and we can divide what's left between us and get it archived. But right now I'm awake at 8 AM after having been working all night, so I can't do anything.

We aren't going to purge the R Ps now. Only Yack Fest.

I meant if that eventually happens.

Anyway, sorry for the misunderstanding.

edited 28th Apr '13 10:54:47 PM by Irene

Okay, that's a relief. Thank you very much. I'll finish the archiving as soon as possible.

Question here since I don't participate much in the forums and more on Wiki side: is there anything we can do on Wiki side to help with memory? Are larger pages an issue (e.g. do we need to stop adding to pages, especially if they have a lot of information or a lot of tropes already? I've been adding to Truth in Television, but seeing as it's already Trope Overdosed, if it's dragging the servers I'll stop).

Do we need to stop creating new pages for the time being? (I was trying to start a wikiproject to make more pages for Visual Kei bands and artists by deliberate redlinking some artists/bands on Visual Kei and, when I wasn't doing other things and felt inspired/knowledgable enough, writing pages myself)

Any other Wiki-side issues we need to start working on to improve memory?

edited 28th Apr '13 10:59:13 PM by RevolutionStone

I'm still unable to view any of the older threads, which might make it difficult for people to make a pick as to what should stay and go if they can't view it either. In fact, the problem seems to be specifically limited to those that haven't had activity on or before that date— anything more recent than that is fine.

Honestly, if the threads have been dead for over two years now, I'd say there's no big loss in cutting them all. If people really still wanted them around, they'd still be getting activity. Maybe for nostalgia's sake people would get upset (and I can certainly understand that—I too really love going back and seeing what a pathetic douche I used to be looking at my older posts), but I'd say that server space outweighs nostalgia in terms of what'd be best for the site.

If anyone wants some perspective as to how many threads are going poof (or wants to know which to check for stuff you want to keep), every page past 13 (and half of that page) would be purged in YF, meaning that well over half of YF threads have been dead for over a year. For FG, every page after 8 would be purged, as well as about a quarter of page 8, meaning that more than half of all Forum Games threads have also been dead for over a year.

If we do the same thing to IJAM, it loses every page after page 3 and about a third of page 3. Additionally, there are 28 pages of IJAM (compared to 30 of YF), meaning only about one sixth of IJAM threads have been active in the last year and nearly five months. I suppose that what I am saying is that IJAM has a LOT of dead threads.

We probably don't need many (if any) OTC threads that have been dead since 12/31/2011 either, and OTC has an astounding number of threads that would be removed. Only the first eight pages have been used since 12/31/11 and there are 31 pages, so there's a lot of dead weight to trim there, as well.

If you want to archive something, those are probably the forums (as well as RP) that you most need to check, seeing as those seem most likely to see these cuts, and this should give you an idea of what pages to start checking on.

It's closer to one year (end of '11 to end of '12 + almost five months)

edited 28th Apr '13 11:42:55 PM by Balmung

So I miscounted, about a year and a half. Doesn't change how I feel at all though. To also put it into perspective, very few of those old dead threads attracted much attention in the first place—I perused through about an hour or so ago and saw that the majority of them never even made it to 50-75 posts.

Honestly, odds are that if we did this to the media forums, they wouldn't lose anything of value either.

I suppose that I'm also saying that I'm cool with this and for all I care, it can go through all of the dead threads on all of the subfora.

In particular, the Video Games forum is a mess, with countless dead, duplicate, complaining, and pointless threads from way back when that we could stand to drop regardless of anything else.

edited 28th Apr '13 11:48:20 PM by Balmung

Is there an exact time set to start purging threads?

edited 29th Apr '13 12:49:03 AM by TechPowah

Is the fact some tropes (like Dangerously Genre-Savvy) no longer have an history related to this problem?

Medinoc: Yes — this TW thread has more information. One of the wiki history tables ran out of room, so edits weren't saving and some pages lost their history.

I would say the RP forums actually wouldn't be all that useful in getting memory down. While only half of the topic in the various RP forums section have posts after December of 2011, there's only about 6-8 pages for each of the sections. It'd be more helpful on memory to actually cut IJAM and OTC using the same cutoff date than the RP forums.

edited 29th Apr '13 1:53:48 AM by GameGuruGG