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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#101: Jun 17th 2013 at 2:56:05 AM

This is why I'm dubious about allowing non-game example. The moves are fluidly animated depending on scene. There's no fixed set of moves they have like in games. That significantly lowers the clone factor the trope needs. For those you'd have to actually prove the two character actually have the same moves, with at most a few changes.

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StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
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#102: Jun 17th 2013 at 8:52:36 AM

[up]Agree. The Goku/Krillin example seems valid but I've only ever seen one episode where Krillin actually fights so I don't know for certain.

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#103: Jun 17th 2013 at 8:59:36 AM

I still say make it video-game only. It's just... simpler.

Honestly I don't remember any fights early on where either of them really exhibit anything resembling a cohesive style. They're both trained by the Turtle Hermit and know the Kamehameha, but their moves are either really generic or instinctive and unless someone pointed it out, I wouldn't have thought they'd have had anything to do with one another.

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StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
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#104: Jun 17th 2013 at 9:02:36 AM

Oh, had a brainstorm and came up with an alliterative title so Moveset Clone has something to vote against. How does Moveset Mirror sound?

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#105: Jun 17th 2013 at 1:27:51 PM

Dunno. A mirror has the whole connotation with things being reversed or opposite. I don't think that goes well with the trope.

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#106: Jun 17th 2013 at 3:54:45 PM

Yeah, I'd be reluctant to say that the word "moveset" could apply to non-video game characters/people.

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#107: Jun 17th 2013 at 4:09:57 PM

Of course, I've been saying since the second page of the thread that I think the trope includes more than simply moveset, but I think that ship has sailed at this point.

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StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
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#108: Jun 17th 2013 at 4:23:10 PM

[up]Can you just tell us in one sentence what else you think it includes?

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#110: Jun 19th 2013 at 9:47:19 AM

Playable Copy?

Game Play Twin?

Plays Like X?

Move Set Clone seems as good as any.

I really can't see how this could apply outside of games in any clear way. Well, I can see how you could apply it, in the sense of "character X has this role in the story, character Y has the same role", as a generalized version of Replacement Love Interest. I don't see how you could define that in a clear way without leaving it incredibly prone to misuse however.

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#111: Jun 19th 2013 at 9:55:59 AM

Added your options to the crowner.

acrobox Since: Nov, 2010
#112: Jun 19th 2013 at 2:18:34 PM

i think the crowner is pretty much at consensus

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#113: Jun 19th 2013 at 3:10:01 PM

Considering the new options, I don't think so.

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acrobox Since: Nov, 2010
#114: Jun 20th 2013 at 10:25:52 PM

one option is at +13, the closest second is -4, everything else is even deeper in the red

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#115: Jun 21st 2013 at 4:40:40 AM

It's been at least a little while now, and nothing indicates the results would just turn around completely.

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PancticeSquadCutterback This is Rain. Isn't she pretty? :) from Georgia (the one the devil went to, not Russia) Since: Feb, 2012
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#116: Jun 21st 2013 at 12:17:15 PM

Me thinks we has a winner.

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#117: Jun 21st 2013 at 1:52:32 PM

Calling the crowner in favor of Moveset Clone, with a final tally of +13 (yeas:14 nays:1) 14.00 : 1

Next highest was Moveset Mirror, in the red at -4 (yeas:2 nays:6)

Commence the actual move, please. Thread has been starred.

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#118: Jun 21st 2013 at 1:54:52 PM

I'll do it. Just wait a bit.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#119: Jun 21st 2013 at 3:03:10 PM

Did the page move and the tagging. Will do the wicks tomorrow.

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PancticeSquadCutterback This is Rain. Isn't she pretty? :) from Georgia (the one the devil went to, not Russia) Since: Feb, 2012
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#120: Jun 21st 2013 at 3:05:17 PM

How about I start on them now?!

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#121: Jun 21st 2013 at 3:15:53 PM

Go ahead. Please.

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#122: Jun 21st 2013 at 3:20:27 PM

Discussion moved.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#123: Jun 21st 2013 at 3:44:36 PM

Did T-Z. Only 174 wicks remain now. Let's note that some of them are misuse and need to go to Bash Brothers and the like.

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PancticeSquadCutterback This is Rain. Isn't she pretty? :) from Georgia (the one the devil went to, not Russia) Since: Feb, 2012
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#124: Jun 21st 2013 at 3:47:15 PM

@123: That's why I'm a bit hesitant about some.

I'm not LGBT. I just think Rain's really cool. Apologies if my humor gets too painful.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#125: Jun 21st 2013 at 4:09:42 PM

Did M-S, except for two wicks on soon cut pages. Now 97 wicks.

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3rd Jun '13 11:08:30 AM

Crown Description:

Ryu And Ken has a long, rambling description and rampant misuse for pretty much every duo under the sun. Furthermore, the works Ninja Gaiden, Fist Of The North Star, and Science Ninja Team each also contain a Ryu/Ken duo that are completely unrelated to this trope. What should be done to fix it?

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