Needs Help (new crowner 9/23/13): America Wins The War

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101 Willbyr23rd Sep 2013 06:12:35 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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102 SantosLHalper23rd Sep 2013 07:21:57 AM from The Canterlot of the North
Gentlecolt and Bard
"They may take our lives, but they'll never take... OUR INALIENABLE RIGHTS TO LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS!"
103 Willbyr23rd Sep 2013 10:01:15 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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[up] It's hooked and the thread title's adjusted.
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Current option at 9:1
105 Willbyr5th Oct 2013 03:33:00 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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Needs more votes.
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
At 14:1 now
This is ready to call.

BTW, while we are on the topic, do we really need a fricking 10 paragraph trope description?

edited 14th Nov '13 6:40:49 PM by Catbert

108 Willbyr15th Nov 2013 05:02:38 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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109 SeptimusHeap15th Nov 2013 05:06:49 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Nah, I think some stuff can be moved over to an analysis page.

Also, remind me again: Is this a plain rename?
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Last crowner established a "Rename this trope to clarify that it's about America winning WWII" and "super trope for all countries and all wars". The supertrope has been YKTTW'd already, so Our Nation Won The War might be the new entry for misused wicks.

Here is the new trope. It's been over a month since Santos made it, so anyone who is cleaning wicks can dump the examples directly into the trope.

This also means we're finished with deliberation, and only grunt-work is left.

edited 15th Nov '13 5:50:42 AM by crazysamaritan

111 SantosLHalper25th Feb 2014 06:49:32 PM from The Canterlot of the North
Gentlecolt and Bard
Well, it's February now. What should we do? Just launch it?
"They may take our lives, but they'll never take... OUR INALIENABLE RIGHTS TO LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS!"
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
It looks like work hasn't been done.
113 SeptimusHeap26th Feb 2014 09:25:29 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Yeah, because of lack of time as well as the YKTTW issue.
114 Achaemenid12th Jul 2014 07:10:59 AM from Blades , Relationship Status: All is for my lord
Man in Black
A quick but related matter: might it be the place to add the related, and so far seemingly un-discussed way in which works depicting the War in Europe - both Fronts - almost always show the enemy as the Germans and nobody else? For instance, when was the last time you see the heroes fighting Romanian, Hungarian, Bulgarian, Slovakian, Spanish, Vichy French, Finnish, Italian, or Croatian troops? Usually its always the Wehrmacht.

This is has lasted right from WWII - as the Germans simultaneously ignored their allies' contributions and blamed them for what they got wrong, whilst the Allies preferred people to think they'd only fought the supposedly tougher German units.

edited 12th Jul '14 7:13:02 AM by Achaemenid

"Roderigh Vich Alpine Dhu, ho! i-e-roe!"
115 shimaspawn15th Aug 2015 09:33:29 AM from Here and Now , Relationship Status: In your bunk
This page move still needs to be done.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
[up][up] The Italians do very rarely appear as enemies in the European Theater, but the other European Axis forces besides the Germans and Italians don't. Also, the Australians and Canadians (Who are also North American just like the Americans, yet they and Mexico (Another North American country) are almost non-existent in fiction. There is even a trope for this: Canada Does Not Exist) never appear in WWII works despite Australia helping the US in the Pacific Theater and Canada helping in the European Theater.

edited 16th Aug '15 2:23:21 PM by Bat178

117 Berrenta8th Sep 2015 05:50:57 PM from Texas , Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Pixilate
[up][up] Okay, move is in progress. We'll need to update the wicks later on, too.

Edit: Move done, and the old page now redirects to the new name. Now we need to update wicks.

edited 8th Sep '15 5:54:27 PM by Berrenta

118 SeptimusHeap9th Sep 2015 01:17:48 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Remember the discussion pages, as well as the "renamed trope" logging.
119 Berrenta9th Sep 2015 06:44:10 AM from Texas , Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Pixilate
[up] Just submitted it in the thread in FAQ and the appropriate Renamed Tropes subpage. Is there anywhere else I should log this?
120 SeptimusHeap9th Sep 2015 07:15:50 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
I've moved the discussions and added a note. What about this YKTTW?
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Partially stalled on "do we organize by medium or country?" and since ~Santos L Halper hasn't been editing, we need a new sponsor.

I have been advocating "organize by country" because America Won World War II is a sub-trope, split from the supertrope based on the country.
122 Berrenta9th Sep 2015 08:34:28 AM from Texas , Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Pixilate
[up] I'm quite torn between those sorting styles. I'm thinking of doing it by nation, but by media could do as well.

Will bump it up, and possibly tag as Up for Grabs.
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
By media is our default, and I assume if we do split by country, we will also subdivide them by media, if there are enough examples per country. Just like the America subtrope is subdivided by media on their page.
124 Berrenta12th Sep 2015 05:26:41 PM from Texas , Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Pixilate
I'm in the process of migrating wicks.

While doing so, I noticed the trope's old location does have a laconic, but it seems to suit the supertrope in YKTTW more, as no country or war was specified.
I've moved the last 100 wicks. As for the Laconic, it can just be moved to the new YKTTW, yes?

Alternative Titles: America Wins The War
23rd Sep '13 7:21:24 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.
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