I would support a merge as well. The Same, but More Specific is kinda silly, in general, and in this particular case I don't really see any value for making America doing so in WW2 a subtrope on its own.
I think having a distinct subtrope for one particular war -that has dominated war fiction since then- is valid, if enough can be said about it on its own. Though it might work better as "America Saves The Day: World War Two".
There might be some value in dividing ASTD between fictional wars and historical fiction.
If it is a work of fiction, including propaganda, it can go in. If it is a propaganda piece such as a poster or an essay but does not tell a story, or disagreement over who did what and how much that helped where, it stays out.
Or at least that is my interpretation.
Ummm... no, you can have propaganda that aims to sway public opinion by stating all the facts in the most favourable light, or by stating only the good facts and not the bad (or vice versa) without making anything up.
(Random fact: Due to circumstantial juxtaposition in TRS I briefly misread this title as America Drops the Keys...)
edited 20th Apr '13 12:30:43 PM by Noaqiyeum
Being against the antithesis of the thing you are a proponent of is not hypocritical.
The propaganda is nontheless believed to be true by a significant number of people. Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment, after all. But if there is a work of fiction which doubles as a propaganda piece, put it in.
Alternatively, we could remove the 'no real life' stipulation from this article, though most people will say that would be too controversial.
America Drops The Keys is an awesome trope name. Now if only we can find a trope to go with it...
More to the point, I'm inclined to not allow propaganda because like most things having to do with politics it's possible Flame Bait. Also because most of the propaganda I've seen has more to do with maximizing one's role in current conflicts than in previous ones (though as I don't actively go looking for it it's possible I just haven't seen any qualifying examples).
I'd suggest we simply add a propaganda section without necessitating allowing all real life examples.
Alternative Titles: America Wins The War
23rd Sep '13 7:21:24 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.