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 26 Morning Star 1337, Sat, 27th Apr '13 7:09:01 AM from the Pacific Timezone Relationship Status: Brony
[up] The problem is that Tyke Bomb and I Am Not a Gun seem to cover specific (and Artifical) examples. and Person of Mass Destruction is Flanderized/decayed into "the trope about people who have nuclear-level power". (To give an example of how far this has gone one of the examples is Flandre Scarlet military forces in Touhou are too rare (if they even exist at all) for her to count otherwise.)

Honestly I think the "true" examples are so few that folders are unnecessary.

edited 27th Apr '13 10:38:33 AM by MorningStar1337

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 27 Morning Star 1337, Thu, 2nd May '13 1:33:53 PM from the Pacific Timezone Relationship Status: Brony
Okay Can you check this YKTTW and see if it's ready to launch now? here's the YKTTW
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 28 Morning Star 1337, Thu, 2nd May '13 6:31:01 PM from the Pacific Timezone Relationship Status: Brony
Thanks Discar. Human Weapon is now launched. Also can someone make Human As Weapon, and Human Bioweapon redirect to this trope?
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Just edit those pages and put in [[redirect:HumanWeapon]]. Also don't forget to crosswick (add the examples on the work pages).

Now that that's launched, we need to clean up the Person of Mass Destruction examples and fix the description.
 30 Morning Star 1337, Thu, 2nd May '13 7:14:49 PM from the Pacific Timezone Relationship Status: Brony
[up] Okay I added wicks back to the examples listed on Human Weapon.
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 31 Morning Star 1337, Sat, 4th May '13 5:10:06 PM from the Pacific Timezone Relationship Status: Brony
Okay do we have any ideas on the description?
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 32 Morning Star 1337, Mon, 6th May '13 7:56:04 AM from the Pacific Timezone Relationship Status: Brony
Um there's seems to be nothing going on with this page.
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I'm crap at descriptions, but since no one else is doing it...

So you've got a force capable of destroying vast amounts of people, land, and possibly the universe, and essentially have the ability to commit a war crime with the wave of a hand. It's just what any super villain or Omnicidal Maniac could possibly want, and then some. There's just one catch...

It's contained by the most unstable thing in the universe. A person.

Uh oh.

A Speculative Fiction trope dating at least to World War II and the bombing of Hiroshima (possibly even earlier), the Person of Mass Destruction is almost always a metaphor for real-world weapons — either subtly, not subtly or somewhere in between. Often the result of trying to create a Super Soldier. Can come with an Aesop about the dangers of letting the metaphorical genie out of the bottle or to convey a Science Is Bad message. Especially if female, the Person of Mass Destruction is very likely to turn into The Woobie or suffer a Super Power Meltdown at some point.

See also Weapon of Mass Destruction and Walking Wasteland. Compare and contrast One-Man Army, where the character doesn't have quite the same scale of power. May be treated as a Human Weapon as well.

How's that look?

edited 6th May '13 8:33:29 AM by Discar

 34 Morning Star 1337, Mon, 6th May '13 9:09:12 AM from the Pacific Timezone Relationship Status: Brony
[up]Well it's slightly different. But I think we need to start moving some of the examples to Human Weapon.
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I swapped out the laconic to "Person with weapon of mass destruction-level powers." Anybody have a problem with swapping in the description?

I'll get on cleaning up the examples shortly.
 36 Native Jovian, Wed, 8th May '13 9:21:19 AM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
I dislike Example as a Thesis in general — they tend to confuse more than they help, and the first thing on a page should always be a definition of the trope.

Here's a quick rewrite of the description:

A person of mass destruction is a person with powers, abilities, or skills capable of causing damage on the level of a Weapon of Mass Destruction. A Speculative Fiction trope, it is frequently used as a metaphor for real-world technology — often nuclear weapons. The source of their destructive powers varies; they may have won the Superpower Lottery, have knowledge of Things Man Was Not Meant to Know, or be a Physical God. What gives them their destructive potential is less important than the fact that they have it.

The reaction to a person of mass destruction is often fear, anger, and hate — which may cross over into outright abuse. Despite this, a person of mass destruction is equally likely to be a hero or a villain, depending on whether they believe With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility or Might Makes Right. A person of mass destruction is more likely than normal to undergo Superpower Meltdown at some point, channeling the fear of losing control of a conventional weapon of mass destruction, as with an Empty Quiver situation.

See also Human Weapon, when this status is deliberately inflicted upon someone.
The only problem I have with that is the last line. It implies that a Human Weapon must be a Person of Mass Destruction.
 38 Morning Star 1337, Wed, 8th May '13 9:52:56 AM from the Pacific Timezone Relationship Status: Brony
[up] Agreed. The reason i made Human Weapon was to separate the "people objectified as weapon" examples with the "people who can end the world with the snap of their fingers" examples.

edited 8th May '13 9:53:13 AM by MorningStar1337

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Anyone have a problem with swapping in Jovian's new definition, except with the last line as "See also Human Weapon, for when someone is literally treated as a weapon"?
 40 Morning Star 1337, Fri, 10th May '13 6:38:41 PM from the Pacific Timezone Relationship Status: Brony
I Don't have a problem with that.

edited 10th May '13 6:40:14 PM by MorningStar1337

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Piffy
Sounds good to me.
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 42 shimaspawn, Sat, 11th May '13 1:17:30 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
I think there should be a line in there that often the Person of Mass Destruction is turned into this against their will and generally has a hair trigger. I'm thinking of things like the bomb man in Heroes. It seems to be a running theme with this sort of character that the rack up huge body counts even as they try to stop it.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
Doesn't the line about Superpower Meltdown cover that?

Also, I swapped it in, since this has just been sitting here for a week, but there's nothing wrong with making a few more tweaks.
 44 Septimus Heap, Sat, 1st Jun '13 7:26:50 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
OK, given that the new description is in (and that all the wicks I can see fit the new description), example cleaup on-page is the only thing needed here, yes?

 45 Septimus Heap, Sat, 8th Jun '13 3:07:29 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Well, seems like nobody contradicted, so I did the example cleaning. Not a single example that would belong on HW instead of POMD, apparently.

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