Misused: Strawman Has A Point get usage counts

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101 EditorPallMall19th Apr 2013 09:56:39 AM from United States, East Coast
Don't Fear the Spiders
No. That is a trope (though it seems redundant but that is for another thread), this is an Audiance Reaction.
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102 EditorPallMall19th Apr 2013 12:22:00 PM from United States, East Coast
Don't Fear the Spiders
Went through live action and animated film sections. Had to go through a lot of square pegs. If you disagree with my edits, discuss.
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The Justice League one should be put back. Its an entirely valid entry as Justice Lord!Batman really does have a point.
104 EditorPallMall19th Apr 2013 07:00:56 PM from United States, East Coast
Don't Fear the Spiders
[up]Something that is deliberately intended as a moral grey area is not a strawman.
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105 EditorPallMall20th Apr 2013 05:18:17 PM from United States, East Coast
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More square pegs have been pulled out. Anime, Literature, Theater, and Video Games sections still need to be gone through.
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106 EditorPallMall21st Apr 2013 07:14:23 AM from United States, East Coast
Don't Fear the Spiders
Theater has been taken care of; only two entries qualified. Video games were also taken care of. Amusingly, video games which leave the moral choice to the player were included. Professional Wrestling really looks like a huge mess and I am tempted to just cut the entire thing. Are there really arguments to be caricaturized in that category, or is it all a case of characters not getting along?

edited 21st Apr '13 7:15:19 AM by EditorPallMall

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107 StarSword21st Apr 2013 10:48:49 AM from somewhere in deep space , Relationship Status: In denial
SF-81A Black Knight
[up] I say cut. I was gonna say "check the wrestling forum" but we don't have one.

I checked around and found what I think is a valid example for literature from the New Jedi Order series, one that was eventually discarded because later authors recognized it for a strawman.

edited 21st Apr '13 10:50:56 AM by StarSword

108 StarSword21st Apr 2013 10:57:08 AM from somewhere in deep space , Relationship Status: In denial
SF-81A Black Knight
Though I checked back and somebody's added a questionable sentence to it, and I'm not at all sure about the Fate of the Jedi one (it seems more like a Broken Aesop than SHAP).

edited 21st Apr '13 10:59:00 AM by StarSword

109 EditorPallMall22nd Apr 2013 05:55:11 PM from United States, East Coast
Don't Fear the Spiders
No one has any thoughts on Professional Wrestling? Anyone believe we loose anything by cutting it?
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110 StarSword22nd Apr 2013 07:34:54 PM from somewhere in deep space , Relationship Status: In denial
SF-81A Black Knight
I don't even know why we count it as a medium of its own. It's reality TV WITH HUGE SWEATY GUYS!

edited 22nd Apr '13 7:35:12 PM by StarSword

111 EditorPallMall22nd Apr 2013 08:08:00 PM from United States, East Coast
Don't Fear the Spiders
Purged the section wholesale. Analysis showed that the trope was being regarded as 'Heel Has a Point' instead of 'Strawman Has a Point'. If there are legitimate examples of SHAP in Professional Wrestling feel free to add them; but it has to be about an argument being characterized that makes at least some amount of sense.
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112 AnotherDuck23rd Apr 2013 12:13:58 AM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
Heel Has A Point is Villain Has a Point, so they'd fit there.
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113 StarSword16th May 2013 05:40:43 PM from somewhere in deep space , Relationship Status: In denial
SF-81A Black Knight
Bump?
Is there still misuse? Seems like there are some people purging the dubious examples.
115 SeptimusHeap18th May 2013 10:40:13 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
OK, I cleaned the sections that Editor Pall Mall didn't edit and watchlisted the page for further quality control. It is clean now.
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