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Any Australians out there? :

 26 Wolf 1066, Thu, 21st Mar '13 8:47:50 PM from New Zealand Relationship Status: In my bunk
Wolf1066
[up]"Stone the bloody crows, mate. Y'can't name her yet, she hasn't even passed. We'll see how she goes this arvo after the barbie." tongue

Also, Fosters is not the national beer of australia.
And it's understood that any pommy beer is "like making love in a canoe".

edited 21st Mar '13 8:55:01 PM by Wolf1066

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Do 14 year olds drink much beer?

 28 joeyjojo, Thu, 21st Mar '13 9:26:55 PM from Opp North Relationship Status: Get out of here, STALKER
When I was a teen they did >_<
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 29 doorhandle, Thu, 21st Mar '13 9:27:04 PM from Space Australia!
Depends on the area and the parenting. But yes, Australia has quite a heavy alcohol culture. Also, Some minor things like driving on the left-hand side of the road, or using the metric system.

 30 tsstevens, Thu, 21st Mar '13 10:47:44 PM from Internet, Tasmania Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
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Fosters is what Australians drink in works that think that is what they drink. Over here there's also Tooheys, Victoria Bitter, Cascade is a nice one, Carlton Draught and Pure Blonde. Not only is there a large number of underage drinkers it is considered a big problem, especially in places such as Sydney. They were even going to ban selling it in the Northern Territory.

Speaking of which, drink + drive = bloody idiot. As far as the car and road culture goes we have rather strict laws here. Depending on where you go you cannot even have a high powered vehicle without experience. We drive on the left hand side except for overtaking, the maximum speed limit is 110 KPH (about 70-80 miles.) There doesn't seem to be a particular favorite model of car for the hoon circuit, you'll find Fords and Holdens of course but also Euros, Jap imports and even the odd sports ute.

As far as language goes it's not the stereotype at all. It's more friendly, cordial, loose, not the uptight British stereotype at all. We do use mate and call someone a good bloke, but sheila is rarer. I haven't really heard stone the crows much at all. Popular topics of discussion would be politics, cricket, footy, they can really be anything but they would be good ones. Or if there is a Buffy level show expect people to be talking about it, especially if it's Australian. Under Belly was the most talked about thing on television for years.
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If the characters have been living in the US for two years, they'd probably still have an accent and some bits of slang, but apart from that I would have thought they'd be mostly Americanised.
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 32 Alma, Fri, 22nd Mar '13 11:09:42 AM from Coruscant Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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"Woah, isn't it a bit premature to be naming her? We don't even know if she's going to pass the test."

Well, I'd say (in transliterated-accent/slang form)...

"Whoa, don'tcha think it's a bit soon to be namin' her? We dun even know if she's gonna pass the bloody test."

I'm not deliberately redneck-ing (or "Aussifying", as the case may be) that up. In spite of the depth of my vocabulary, that IS usually what I sound like. "Writing the accent" is a good way to telegraph that a character isn't local, but Unfortunate Implications abound if some take it as you painting a certain nationality or demographic as stupid or poorly-spoken. (On that subject, the most egregious and indecipherable example of "writing the accent" I've encountered EVER is hands down in Wuthering Heights. Goddamn Joseph is like he's from another planet.)

Australian slang is also pretty British sometimes, in spite of our relationship with the "Poms". Remember that Australia got its beginnings as a British penal colony, populated by England's various hoodlums, so our slang and accents sometimes come off as lower-class/"street" British. "Guvnuh", for example. "Bloody" as an adjective/mild swear is another.

Also, I've NEVER heard the expression "stone the crows".

edited 22nd Mar '13 11:14:41 AM by Alma

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 33 Wolf 1066, Fri, 22nd Mar '13 11:50:03 AM from New Zealand Relationship Status: In my bunk
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"stone the crows" is really old slang - I was taking the piss by referencing it. Those of my grandparents' generation used it (and I'm nearly 50, for reference) and to a lesser degree my parents' generation - because they tended to have a lot of milder alternatives to "fucking Hell!" back then. It was one of the terms common to both NZ and Aus.

I think the best rendering of Aussie English I've seen in print is "They're a Weird Mob" by "Nino Culotta" (pseudonym of John O'Grady) - but some of the slang is very dated now.

edited 22nd Mar '13 12:10:53 PM by Wolf1066

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[up][up]Cool I'll probably go with something like that. Chaos is a teen genius. I kinda like the idea of him talking a bit redneck.

edited 22nd Mar '13 12:54:38 PM by HistoryMaker

 35 Wolf 1066, Fri, 22nd Mar '13 1:20:43 PM from New Zealand Relationship Status: In my bunk
Wolf1066
Any mode of speech is cultural and does not reflect intellect.

You might know all sorts of things or be able to come up with stuff that you've worked out by yourself or can strip a jet engine down while blindfolded - that's not going to stop you from using idiomatic speech relevant to your culture and even applying it to your work.

You could tell your colleagues what was wrong with every machine in the lab, chapter-and-verse, and outline everything you did to fix them or you could just say "what a day! Every bloody machine in the lab decided to shit itself."

You may well "pretty that up" and use more formal or precise speech if your manager's a stuck up wanker, but you could probably get away with that with most the IT managers I've worked with.

edited 22nd Mar '13 1:22:30 PM by Wolf1066

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That's my point. Just because the kid is super smart doesn't mean he has to sound pretentious. smile

 37 joeyjojo, Fri, 22nd Mar '13 3:16:28 PM from Opp North Relationship Status: Get out of here, STALKER
Also there is a lot of causal swearing. But you're free to downplay that.
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 38 sabrina diamond, Fri, 22nd Mar '13 7:04:33 PM from in my belly... Relationship Status:
I'm a writer :) I think the twin characters can be mutual at least [awesome] They should use the words ocker and bloody awesome and possibly wanker :)

edited 22nd Mar '13 8:18:52 PM by sabrina_diamond

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 39 d Roy, Fri, 22nd Mar '13 9:43:40 PM Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
I recently thought; the main setting of my current story is a town founded by convicts that is infamous for having many, MANY dangerous wildlife.

I have a feeling that this town (currently named Riverach) is basically a miniature (popular depiction of) Australia. [lol]
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 40 Wolf 1066, Fri, 22nd Mar '13 10:49:49 PM from New Zealand Relationship Status: In my bunk
Wolf1066
History Maker, where do their names "Chaos" and "Pandora" come from? Are they their given names? If so, why? Are they nicknames they brought with them from Aus or are they nicknames given to them by their American friends?

Pandora sounds tres "Secret Diary of Adrian Mole", and Chaos doesn't strike me as a name anyone would give their kids.

Neither sound like an Aussie nickname - and you've seen what those names would be changed to form an Aussie nickname.

[up] Just watch out for those fucking drop-bears!

One of my favourite tales is of a couple of con-men in England (Victorian Era, IIRC) that were being paid to entertain people with their True Adventures in Australia. They'd charge quite respectable sums to regale people of their journeys through the Wild and Untamed lands of Australia so that the good folk of England who had never had the opportunity to travel abroad and have great and exciting adventures could live vicariously - and were eventually caught out when they started talking about "flocks of Wom Bats flying in the sunset..."

edited 22nd Mar '13 10:56:31 PM by Wolf1066

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 41 joeyjojo, Fri, 22nd Mar '13 11:40:05 PM from Opp North Relationship Status: Get out of here, STALKER
[up]Hosently naming standards are dropping everywhere. 7 years into the future and I doubt most people will blink an eye at 'chaos'.
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 42 tsstevens, Sat, 23rd Mar '13 1:46:39 AM from Internet, Tasmania Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
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I recently thought; the main setting of my current story is a town founded by convicts that is infamous for having many, MANY dangerous wildlife.

Doing so may seem like a stereotype but this is in fact Truth in Television. In Sydney, hell in Tasmania now you have the funnelweb, the deadliest spider in the world. You have the black tiger (see what I did there?) and other various forms of snakes that are the deadliest in the world. You have bats and possums implicated in vampire attacks (there was a case in Melbourne where a victim had the punctures their neck and blood drained that bore the hallmarks of a vampire.) Koalas and especially wombats are vicious creatures. Sharks, jellyfish and stingray, the latter killing the late great Steve Irwin. Razorbacks, think the feral pigs in Footrot Flats. Crocs. Then you have the wilderness. Eucalyptus that is at least partially to blame for the epic bushfires. Oppressive heat in the summer. Drought. Floods. Jungles up north that boiled invaders in World War Two alive. Inhospitable uncrossable terrain and waterways. Australia does not suffer fools at all.

As far as personality goes, you'll find us quite a bit colliquent I think is the word. A bit loose, a bit rough. We go off at things, issues, other people, even each other more than you might expect in other cultures. If you watch Hell's Kitchen that's extreme but that's every day stuff, and it's water off a duck's back, or it should be.

Story: Mick Mundine is an aboriginal minister and a colleague or his boss said to get his black ass into his office. Some took great offense and deemed it racist but when radio personality John Laws asked him about it he asked what colour's his bum. Mundine thought it was all a storm in a teacup and took it as Everything Is Racist. So there you are.

edited 23rd Mar '13 1:47:00 AM by tsstevens

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@Wolf

Chaos and Pandora are code names/nicknames they got in Amarica. Specificly after they joined the Phoenix organazation which is trying to cure the global pandemic.

I haven't settled on given names for them. I need to do that, but in all their interactions w/ the main characters the code names are used.

Pandora got her name because she is "all gifted"

Chaos got his because he creates and thrives on it.

Pretty much everybody goes by their new names all the time. ( To the point when someone dies and a friend putts his real name on a grave marker several people ask "Who was Jason Le?")The world has changed so much they aren't the people they once were. Family/close friends may use given names in certan circumstances.

Any suggestions for given names?

edited 23rd Mar '13 3:39:18 AM by HistoryMaker

 44 Wolf 1066, Sat, 23rd Mar '13 3:49:29 AM from New Zealand Relationship Status: In my bunk
Wolf1066
[up]That'd work, and they'd most likely twist them into the nicknames suggested above when talking to or about each other. And they'd most likely create their own nicknames for others in their organisation, too.

Y'might want to run some of the names/handles of other members past the resident Ockers and get them to suggest how they'd be mutil mutated into nicknames.

edited 23rd Mar '13 3:51:05 AM by Wolf1066

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[up]Ace(born Anna, hates the name Anna)

Tango (born TJ, is the leader)

Athena (born Rachel, engaged to Tango)

Ghost (I don't have a given name for him yet and he's a huge character)

Angel (born Ally, adopted by Ace)

The Kid (Actually gets called by his given name, Julian, much of the time)

Wolf Man

Gear Head

Zombie (born Jason Le )

Teach (Ace's mother, born Mary)

Cypher (Ghost's sister, born Lizzy)

Sage (Posthumous Character)

Mouse

(There are a few more, haven't named them yet)

edited 23rd Mar '13 9:01:17 AM by HistoryMaker

[up]Sorry about the long list. It hard to stop once I start, for some reason I really like listing all may characters.

I would be pretty interested to know what Chaos would call Athena because I think he has a crush on her. (She's 21 and engaged so it's never going to happen, but a kid can dream.)

Someone mentioned casual profanity would it make any sense for a girl to refer to her twin brother semi-affectionately as the "little bastard". As in:

" He coulda been safe ya know, coulda stayed in the Green Zone, no plague, not even any germs, but the little bastard chose to be out here with the death and the danger and me cuz that's who he is."

edited 28th Mar '13 6:04:28 PM by HistoryMaker

 47 joeyjojo, Thu, 28th Mar '13 6:51:30 PM from Opp North Relationship Status: Get out of here, STALKER
I've met more people with the name Angel then Ally actually.
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 48 Morwen Edhelwen, Fri, 29th Mar '13 7:06:11 PM from Sydney, Australia
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@joeyjojo: I know a number of Alisons who go by Ally.

edited 29th Mar '13 7:06:25 PM by MorwenEdhelwen

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 49 Hedgewolf, Wed, 3rd Apr '13 3:06:13 AM from Perth, WA Relationship Status: Heisenberg unreliable
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Australian, lived on both sides of the country.

Australian accents vary wildly and I don't hear a lot of the traditional Australian vernacular in use. There is a significant tendency to swear heavily and without provocation and among working class folk you will hear 'mate' and a lot of 'yeah', 'course', very relaxed, shortened language. It's all about not being fussed. And then swearing...

The above poster who suggested that 'Chaos' and 'Pandora' would be mutilated was correct. I have met a woman whose real name was Pandora; we all referred to her as 'Panda' in that cheerful almost-offensive way we have.
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 50 Wolf 1066, Wed, 3rd Apr '13 5:32:13 PM from New Zealand Relationship Status: In my bunk
Wolf1066
A mate (we Kiwis use that term, too) of mine, whose surname was Drury, stayed in Aus for a while and was nicknamed "Durex", which is a brand of adhesive tape in Australia, by the locals.

When he came back "over the ditch" (or back to New Zealand, for those unfamiliar with what we call the chunk of ocean between Aus and NZ), the nickname followed.

We don't have that particular brand of adhesive tape over here, but we do have something else that has the same brand name, which lead to Unfortunate Implications when he was referred to by the nickname he'd picked up in Australia.

edited 3rd Apr '13 5:34:08 PM by Wolf1066

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