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 26 Editor Pall Mall, Thu, 28th Mar '13 6:42:22 AM from United States, East Coast
Don't Fear the Spiders
[up]Okay, I think we're on to something here. Surely the first Neo Africa story was a genre buster, right?
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 27 Noaqiyeum, Thu, 28th Mar '13 12:26:12 PM from out of the night from pole to pole Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
Yes, but it's also better-listed under Genre Launch. There are plenty of unique works that have not gone on to inspire imitators. That's what the term 'Interstitial' covers.
We dance around in a ring and suppose,
But the Secret sits in the middle and knows.
- Robert Frost
 28 nrjxll, Thu, 28th Mar '13 2:42:35 PM Relationship Status: Not war
You mean that this trope is using 'genre' ambiguously?

Yes. As used on the page, "genre" covers a whole lot of things, and it seems like choosing which ones a work falls under is being treated as a matter of individual discretion.

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Genres and their boundaries can be ambiguous, but there are a great deal of recognizable things we call genres, and even though genres may become increasingly fluid, the words we use to describe them are not going to vanish.

And I'm not too satisfied with that Interstitial Art Wikipedia page, given that it reads more like a brochure than an encyclopedia entry. (Seriously, read the How art can be interstitial section and compare that to your average Wikipedia entry.) There are some people who are really passionate about slipstream or interstitial fiction or genre mashups or whatever new genre-bending concept there is, but genre is still a useful concept.
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 30 Noaqiyeum, Thu, 28th Mar '13 6:17:00 PM from out of the night from pole to pole Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
The point of providing the page link was just to show that it has an accepted term associated with it that has less of an inherent soooooooo cooooooool factor than 'Genre-Busting'.
We dance around in a ring and suppose,
But the Secret sits in the middle and knows.
- Robert Frost
 31 nrjxll, Thu, 28th Mar '13 9:52:23 PM Relationship Status: Not war
[up][up]I said as used on this page. I honestly think fiction as a whole is approaching a point of blurrier genre distinctions, but what I'm objecting to here is the way in which the page uses two entirely different "types" of genres - say, fantasy and buddy movie - to call works sharing them Genre-Busting.

 32 Noaqiyeum, Thu, 28th Mar '13 10:13:30 PM from out of the night from pole to pole Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
The video games section is particularly bad about this, since what is considered 'genre' in video games is entirely different from genre delineations in any other medium.
We dance around in a ring and suppose,
But the Secret sits in the middle and knows.
- Robert Frost
 33 Another Duck, Fri, 29th Mar '13 2:31:09 AM from Stockholm Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
That's because in Video Games, the setting and overall tone, which otherwise is what a genre is, is (usually) far less important than the actual gameplay mechanics. As such, it makes much more sense to use the genres in a different way. And naturally, the examples mix it up.
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As well that with video games a story might fit into any number of story genres but the gameplay genre might be wildly original. Heavy Rain comes to mind, which is a Neo Noir Detective Drama but the entire gameplay is basically a series of Action Commands.

 35 Noaqiyeum, Sat, 30th Mar '13 2:45:07 PM from out of the night from pole to pole Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
Video games need to come up with a new word besides 'genre' for that.
We dance around in a ring and suppose,
But the Secret sits in the middle and knows.
- Robert Frost
 36 Another Duck, Sat, 30th Mar '13 3:18:00 PM from Stockholm Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
But the industry standard is what it is. It's not something we've made up here. And it's not like the definition of the word doesn't support that use anyway.

edited 30th Mar '13 3:19:03 PM by AnotherDuck

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 37 shoboni, Sat, 30th Mar '13 4:32:01 PM from Iowa, USA
A video game kinda has two genres at once, the gameplay genre, and the stories genre.
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 38 Noaqiyeum, Sat, 30th Mar '13 5:23:08 PM from out of the night from pole to pole Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
[up] Exactly.
We dance around in a ring and suppose,
But the Secret sits in the middle and knows.
- Robert Frost
That's no different than any other form of combining genres. It is simply the story mixed with the presentation. A Sci-Fi story told from a FPS angle isn't much different than, say, a Romantic Comedy told from a Road Movie angle.

 40 Noaqiyeum, Sat, 30th Mar '13 8:46:59 PM from out of the night from pole to pole Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
"Road Movie" is a 'plot genre', like Mystery or Romance or Escape from the Crazy Place, whereas "Science Fiction" or "Fantasy" are 'setting genres'. "FPS" is closer to being a medium than either of those, since it's not altering the story, but the way by which the audience interacts with the story.

And this is getting off-topic.
We dance around in a ring and suppose,
But the Secret sits in the middle and knows.
- Robert Frost
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You could say that different video game genres are more like the difference between poetry and prose.
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Regardless the video games are not the problem with the trope.

 43 StarSword, Fri, 19th Apr '13 2:09:38 PM from somewhere in deep space Relationship Status: In denial
SF-81A Black Knight
Bump. So do we think we need a new trope to cover the genre mishmash examples (the non-music Neoclassical Punk Zydeco Rockabillies)?

edited 19th Apr '13 2:09:46 PM by StarSword

 44 shoboni, Fri, 19th Apr '13 2:51:36 PM from Iowa, USA
That works for me, it's odd that that trope doesn't have a non-music counterpart. It'd be straightforward to make too, just a non-music version of that trope.
"It's not that simple. We are all both, good and evil, we have rage and compassion, we have love and hate...murder and forgiveness."
 45 Noaqiyeum, Fri, 19th Apr '13 7:07:14 PM from out of the night from pole to pole Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
Sure.
We dance around in a ring and suppose,
But the Secret sits in the middle and knows.
- Robert Frost
 46 StarSword, Fri, 19th Apr '13 8:15:10 PM from somewhere in deep space Relationship Status: In denial
SF-81A Black Knight
Ok, it worked that time. Data Vampires ate my first try.

I've added it to YKTTW as Science Fantasy Work Com Cop Show.
 47 StarSword, Sat, 20th Apr '13 8:08:41 AM from somewhere in deep space Relationship Status: In denial
SF-81A Black Knight
... which Eddie told me to change to Genre Fusion. Oh well.
 48 Septimus Heap, Sat, 20th Apr '13 8:09:43 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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Yours was overly long. I was just too lazy to post thattongue

 49 Noaqiyeum, Sat, 20th Apr '13 11:40:27 AM from out of the night from pole to pole Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
But it was very clearly patterned after Neoclassical Punk Zydeco Rockabilly. :P
We dance around in a ring and suppose,
But the Secret sits in the middle and knows.
- Robert Frost
[up]That
"It's not that simple. We are all both, good and evil, we have rage and compassion, we have love and hate...murder and forgiveness."
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