Spoiler: Revive Kills Zombie

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Given the usual modus operandi of OOTS spoilers on this site (it seems like every major plot point starting from about V's Deal with the Devil is spoilertagged), and given that the image from the comic spoils a plot point that's only like a week old (albeit one that was a major I Knew It! moment for some), it should be pulled and possibly replaced with something more appropriate.

Sorry if this was brought up already.

EDIT: It was, but in the recent edits section. No, this was NOT known, it was theorized and speculated, and there's a MASSIVE difference.

I'm not sure whether I'm allowed to pull it unilaterally so I'll leave that to y'all.

edited 28th Feb '13 8:25:56 PM by Incom

Agreed. Motion to pull.

Agreed.

How did I guess that it would be a new strip from OOTS? That being said, it is a pretty good illustration since a Heal spell is shown causing pain.

I dunno, considering that, while many images on the wiki come from them, many, many more don't.

If it's really a spoiler, then pull. Otherwise, it illustrates well enough that I'd say Keep.

I would suggest asking Goldfritha to get in here and assert why he considers it not to be a spoiler, though, considering he's already reverted an attempt to remove it for being a spoiler.

edited 28th Feb '13 9:07:08 PM by ShadowHog

But it's a massive spoiler. Those are a no-go.

Anyway, that's three votes. Pulling it. Anyone have another suggestion?

edited 28th Feb '13 9:07:47 PM by Discar

Oh no. Not the undead. *yawn*◊

I don't see the "revive" part of that.

Yeah. Absolutely nothing separates that from the aftermath of a Fira spell or something.

Yeah, that doesn't look like a healing or reviving spell...it'd need another screen of the spell being selected to get across what it is to people unfamiliar with the game.

Ideally it would be a shot that's incredibly obviously healing being used on a zombie, like with a circling cherub or something (I think Chrono Trigger has an effect like this, but it doesn't have zombies or the ability to heal enemies IIRC).

Presumably the "kills" part would be implied by the fact that there's not really any other good reason to heal an opponent; alternatively the caption would be like "The fastest way to kill that which is already dead" or something like that.

It's possible there's a worthy pic in Dominic Deegan, white magic there harms undead. I've not read it in years so I'm not sure where a good pic might be.

Clock is set.

For the lack of a better image, I suggest we put the OOTS image back a month from now, because by then it's no longer a recent spoiler.

I think that's a rather impractical and fanmyopic definition of what a spoiler is. It doesn't take a month for something to stop being a spoiler. Not everyone who can be spoiled is an avid follower already.

True, but to somebody who's not an avid follower, this is not a spoiler. All it shows is that two characters fight - the actual spoiler (that Malack kills Durkon) isn't shown.

Note that the character Malack only appears for a single plot arc, and was introduced as a bad guy. It is, literally, only a spoiler for people who have Archive Binge'd up to comic 737, but haven't gotten to comic 822 yet. That's a pretty small group; and to everybody else, there's nothing special to see here.

Well, if it doesn't actually show the spoiler, it's fine.

If it does, it's still a spoiler for people who've read less, since it's possible to remember images for a long time. I've been spoiled by an image I saw a year before I saw the series, and didn't particularly think about at the moment. Reading less than 1000 strips in a year isn't exactly hard.

edited 24th Mar '13 8:29:24 AM by AnotherDuck

It's a double spoiler: That Malack is a vampire and that he ends up fighting someone he was quite friendly with at first.

Whether it's a mild spoiler or not is YMMV, but getting an image for this trope is not more important than keeping plot points from being spoiled.

The image doesn't say anything about vampires, and Malack was initially /hostile/, not friendly. In his first scene, he tries to feed Elan to a dragon.

Isn't that the usual reaction to Elan, though?

Friendly with Durkon. And the entire point of the image is that he's undead (though you're right, there's nothing saying he's a vampire specifically), which is a spoiler.

Clock's up; locking for inactivity. No further action is to be taken based on this thread.