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1276 TobiasDrake18th Mar 2014 10:35:11 AM from Colorado, USA , Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Two women were killed when they tried to take shelter under a tree. The tree attracted the lightning, but the lightning then passed from the tree into their underwire bras, as indicated by the severe burning on their chests. Had they not been wearing the bras, they may have survived.

edited 18th Mar '14 10:35:27 AM by TobiasDrake

1277 Imca18th Mar 2014 10:41:51 AM , Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Okay, that makes alot more sense, it is the arcing from taking cover under a tree.

They could have also just not gone any where near the tree though, common sense is tall objects act as lightning rods but thats beside the point.
1278 TotemicHero18th Mar 2014 10:48:15 AM from the next level , Relationship Status: Abstaining
1279 joeyjojo18th Mar 2014 12:15:48 PM from South Sydney: go the bunnies!
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[up][up][up]That's a big maybe don't Cha think?
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1280 TobiasDrake18th Mar 2014 12:16:41 PM from Colorado, USA , Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Not that big. Plenty of people have survived being near a lightning strike. When the bolt hits your body directly, however, that's fatal. The bras conducted the bolt directly into the women's chests, which is where all your most important non-brain organs are.

edited 18th Mar '14 12:17:33 PM by TobiasDrake

1281 AnotherDuck18th Mar 2014 12:57:58 PM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
I wonder what the actual economics are for medicine being tested on women as well. What are the reprecussions for missing a symptom and releasing the medicine anyway? Considering that seems (if those numbers are accurate, 8/10) to be far more likely than a non-woman-tested drug remaining, they pretty much have to figure that cost into it as well. Is that actually cheaper than testing on women? Not to mention, if you did a proper test, it'd be a great way to advertise the medicine. And that's just about economics, not minor and inconsequential stuff as morality and playing with people's lives...

As for lightning, pretty much any metallic object you're wearing (keys, jewellery, phone) would have the same effect as an underwire. But overall, most people do survive. About one in ten die, I think. And interestingly (but logically), you're statistically more likely to both get hit and survive a second strike if you've been struck once.
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Obama calls for equal pay for women. "This isn't 1958."

President Barack Obama made a pitch for women's pocketbook issues Thursday, calling for legislation requiring equal pay for equal work and saying Congress would get more done if it had more women.

"Women with college degrees may earn hundreds of thousands of dollars less over the course of her career than a man at the same educational level, and that’s wrong." Obama said. "This isn’t 1958 — it’s 2014.”

He continued, "A woman deserves work place policies that protect her right to have a baby without losing her job. It’s pretty clear that, you know, if men were having babies, we'd have different policies."


White House aides say turning out female voters, particularly single women, will be a key to Democratic performance in November so Obama is putting extra emphasis on financial challenges facing that demographic, including equal pay.

"I've got a personal stake in seeing women get ahead," Obama said from a Valencia College stage filled with 25 women of diverse ages and ethnicities. "First of all, women make up 80 percent of my household, if you count my mother-in-law, and I always count my mother-in-law." He also noted he was raised by a single mother, with the support of a grandmother who he said hit a "glass ceiling" at the bank where she trained men to become her boss.
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1283 Kostya20th Mar 2014 07:56:45 PM from Everywhere
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  • Crosses fingers*

Please go apeshit and start trashing women left and right. If enough of them say stupid things it could lead to a few seats changing sides.
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[up][up] As far as I'm aware, equal pay for equal work is already legally required, it's just very difficult to enforce due to how subjective "equal work" is.
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1285 Gabrael20th Mar 2014 09:40:33 PM from My musings , Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
No. It doesnt. It is very easy for the bosses to make excuses and loopholes that fuck women over. I have been the object of this myself in several jobs.
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1286 Euodiachloris20th Mar 2014 09:54:52 PM from England (Oop North) , Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Euo will do!
[up]Why go for loopholes when you just use macramé from the get-go? <_<
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[up][up] But, again, that's a problem with enforcement, not the law itself: it's illegal to pay someone differently because of their sex, but it's easy to claim the pay difference is caused by other factors, and odds are no one will be able to prove otherwise.
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1288 TobiasDrake21st Mar 2014 08:35:47 AM from Colorado, USA , Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Different pay for equal work is actually pretty normal in corporate environments for all their employees. One common rule when you get hired at a corporation is that your pay is nobody else's business. You aren't allowed to talk about how much you make with the other employees, under penalties up to and including termination of your employment. This is Hand Waved by saying that it's to avoid creating workplace drama, when it's really there to disguise the absence of a pay standard.

Hiring managers make a judgment call when they make the employment offer, finding a balance between trying to pay you as little as they can, versus offering you something you will accept. Three people working the exact same job with the exact same qualifications will bring home three completely different paychecks, and will be fired if they start comparing.

edited 21st Mar '14 8:37:18 AM by TobiasDrake

1289 Imca21st Mar 2014 11:03:24 AM , Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
[up] That exxactly that.
1290 Kostya21st Mar 2014 11:06:04 AM from Everywhere
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[up][up]That sort of thing should be illegal in my opinion. There should be basic standards of pay for similar positions and this information should be available to all employees. That would make it easier to tell if someone is getting shafted.

edited 21st Mar '14 11:06:16 AM by Kostya

1291 Imca21st Mar 2014 11:11:45 AM , Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
And that's why it will never be illegal, corperations don't want you to know there screwing you, and they control the way goverments work because MONEY~
1292 Kostya21st Mar 2014 11:15:24 AM from Everywhere
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I know it will likely never happen. I was just musing about how employees should be able to know what the various people in the departments make relative to them.
1293 Gabrael22nd Mar 2014 02:57:48 PM from My musings , Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
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Interesting coming from Jimmy Carter, who from what I've heard was considered a fairly crappy president.
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1295 Blueeyedrat22nd Mar 2014 03:21:14 PM from nowhere in particular. , Relationship Status: Mu
Meh. Carter gets a lot of flak because no one remembers him and everyone remembers Reagan, who undid a lot of his progressive achievements (like, say, environmental policy). I say he's worth listening to.
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1296 Gabrael22nd Mar 2014 06:26:32 PM from My musings , Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Carter was a good president. He was good in ways that was needed not ways that was popular. So yeah, he gets a lot of nonsense flack.

His experience is worth considering and I am glad he is continuing to speak more even as he ages and he really doesnt have to.
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According to Crash Course, the mistake Carter made was telling the American public that they were at fault for their own problems and that they needed to keep their consumption in check.

This was during a time when American mistrust in their government was at an all-time high, so . . . . . . yeah . . .
1298 RhymeBeat23rd Mar 2014 12:33:57 PM from Eastern Standard , Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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So clearly the president's job should have been to lie to them and hope they all disobeyed him out of spite.
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1299 AnotherDuck23rd Mar 2014 12:46:39 PM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
That sounds like a boss I had.
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1300 shimaspawn24th Mar 2014 06:50:35 PM from Here and Now , Relationship Status: In your bunk
Radical Taoist posted this on the US Politics Thread, but I think it fits well here as well:

Rennie Gibbs’s daughter, Samiya, was a month premature when she simultaneously entered the world and left it, never taking a breath. To experts who later examined the medical record, the stillborn infant’s most likely cause of death was also the most obvious: the umbilical cord wrapped around her neck.

But within days of Samiya’s delivery in November 2006, Steven Hayne, Mississippi’s de facto medical examiner at the time, came to a different conclusion. Autopsy tests had turned up traces of a cocaine byproduct in Samiya’s blood, and Hayne declared her death a homicide, caused by “cocaine toxicity.”

In early 2007, a Lowndes County grand jury indicted Gibbs, a 16-year-old black teen, for “depraved heart murder” — defined under Mississippi law as an act “eminently dangerous to others…regardless of human life.” By smoking crack during her pregnancy, the indictment said, Gibbs had “unlawfully, willfully, and feloniously” caused the death of her baby. The maximum sentence: life in prison.
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