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Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
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#301: Apr 6th 2013 at 4:44:50 AM

[up]... Kiinda. Reduced opportunities due to race pile on top of that as well, though. See also, intersectionality.

It's important to remember that racism is not dead in the west - observe, for example, certain employers' reluctance to employ 'dem dirty Muslims'.

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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#302: Apr 6th 2013 at 4:59:59 AM

[up][up][up]People from higher social economical background are statistically better educated, have greater personal health care, stabler family units and are less like to spend time in prison or develop a substance addiction.

These are traits which are always going to be desirable from employers. Hence they are going to be employed more then people in the lower class spectrum, even with out Intentional class and race discrimination on top of that.

edited 6th Apr '13 5:02:51 AM by joeyjojo

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Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#303: Apr 6th 2013 at 5:21:40 AM

[R]acism is not dead in the west - observe, for example, certain employers' reluctance to employ 'dem dirty Muslims'.

Islam is a race? Guess Merriam-Webster and the like haven't updated their dictionaries yet...

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Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
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#304: Apr 6th 2013 at 5:43:38 AM

[up]It's used as a racial slur for those of Middle Eastern descent. I thought the context would have made that clear.

What a slur literally means is seldom relevant - after all, 'negro' just means 'black', and 'Jap' is a shortened version of 'Japanese'.

edited 6th Apr '13 5:45:20 AM by Iaculus

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Meklar from Milky Way Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
#305: Apr 6th 2013 at 12:49:37 PM

Does it have anything to do with the fact that "meritocracy" is used as a flimsy justification for class oppression and has nothing to do with reality?
This is kind of a perversion of the term. As I understand it, the basic idea of meritocracy is to put governing power in the hands of those who are most fit to wield it effectively, as measured by some testable criteria. The assumption that the criteria will automatically consist of wealth and/or social status has nothing to do with reality and is merely used as a flimsy justification for rejecting the whole idea out of hand. On the contrary, centuries of historical experience suggest that a person's fitness to govern effectively has little to do with wealth or social status.

People from higher social economical background ... are less like to spend time in prison
Of course, the more common and arbitrary prison sentences become, the less meaning this carries.

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Ultrayellow Unchanging Avatar. Since: Dec, 2010
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#306: Apr 6th 2013 at 2:00:22 PM

Many people of Middle Eastern descent are visually almost impossible to differentiate from those of European descent, Iaculus. You can't chalk it up to racism. Bigotry comes in many forms. Using "racism" as a catch-all term is not only wrong, it makes you come off as self-righteous and out of touch.

edited 6th Apr '13 2:01:05 PM by Ultrayellow

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
Besserwisser from Planet of Hats Since: Dec, 2009
#307: Apr 6th 2013 at 2:02:07 PM

Is there a term for treating people worse based on their religion? There should be one.

Midgetsnowman Since: Jan, 2010
#308: Apr 6th 2013 at 2:02:58 PM

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Yes. Guess what?

Usually, the average anti-muslim bigot assumes those europeans are muslims too.

I've heard of italian descent people in Missouri being told to go back to afghanistan where they belong.

edited 6th Apr '13 2:03:06 PM by Midgetsnowman

Ultrayellow Unchanging Avatar. Since: Dec, 2010
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#309: Apr 6th 2013 at 2:07:13 PM

@Midget: That anecdote seems like it's not a particularly common occurrence. Do you have any evidence besides the story of one isolated case? I'm not saying that your story is false, just that it seems unlikely that it's happened frequently. I'm quite tan for instance, and despite living in a very conservative area have never been taken for anything but a WASP.

@Besser: Religious bigotry, I suppose. Though that's hardly catchy or illustrative.

edited 6th Apr '13 2:07:52 PM by Ultrayellow

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
Besserwisser from Planet of Hats Since: Dec, 2009
#310: Apr 6th 2013 at 2:09:18 PM

I'm guessing there is a more concise term for religious bigotry but it just isn't as well-known as sexism or racism.

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