On TV Tropes, it's very common for editors to misuse appearance tropes, as well as tropes whose names make them sound like they could be appearance tropes.
Meaningful Appearance tropes are often misused in ways that overlook the "Meaningful" aspect, resulting in Zero Context Examples and misuse in the form of examples that have no meaning even if the tropes themselves are not People Sit on Chairs.
The Appearance Tropes Cleanup sandbox covers tropes with potential issues. Tropes that simply require cleanup will go through this thread, while tropes that require more significant action will have to go through the Trope Repair Shop.
April 2, 2023 update: This thread is no longer for making changes to tropes, and was brought back from the Projects Morgue solely for cleanup. Making changes to tropes is still a job for the Trope Repair Shop.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 2nd 2023 at 9:18:26 AM
I could get behind renaming it to Common Eye Color Index.
I agree that it's not a trope and shouldn't be used as one.
Common Eye Colors found in: 56 articles, excluding discussions.
edited 19th Feb '17 12:45:07 PM by Xtifr
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.Should we shorten it to just Eye Color Index and remove the Common?
We do have Eye Tropes.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanI propose Eye Color Tropes as the new name.
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.If that's the case, I don't see the point in having Common Eye Colors.
... An index can have one or more sub-indexes, you know.
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.@ Marq FJA: I was just using Hero Tropes to illustrate my point. I might as well have said Fear Tropes or Intelligence Tropes. The simple fact is that indexes are not tropes and shouldn't be used as such. So I support your suggestion to rename Common Eye Colours. Eye Color Tropes works. And obviously, we should cut all misuse as well.
You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"I think that having a dedicated index will fool people into thinking we have an interest in such tropes we don't have.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanI'm not sure if I understood your concern right, Septimus, so correct me if I'm wrong... Are you saying that you expect that people will start coming up with supposed "tropes" about eyecolors that are not really tropes (i.e. they're People Sit On Chairs, The Same But More Specific, or any of the other similar problems) if we create an Eye Color Tropes index?
edited 19th Feb '17 2:13:29 PM by MarqFJA
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Indeed.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynmani'm with septimus. Any eye color tropes that get saved can go on the Eye Tropes page. No point having Eye Tropes and Eye Color Tropes both. At most soft split on one page:
General Eye Tropes
Eye Color Tropes
edited 19th Feb '17 4:09:50 PM by acrobox
Septimus's argument makes sense to me. By a similar logic, I would say thumbs down on a soft-split.
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.thats fine, just one list works too.
so cut the Common Eye Colors index and wicks then? 56 wicks isn't too much.
edited 19th Feb '17 11:35:45 PM by MorningStar1337
I can get the logic behind not making a sub-index, but not the logic behind not making a soft-split. Lots of indexes I've seen use soft-splits, and AFAIK there's no actual trend in misuse resulting from such splits.
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Soft splits tend to become maintenance issues when they aren't useless in the first place.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanI say go with the simple plumbing; one index for all eye related tropes and one list for all of them.
Crownering this.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanI'm not sure why people are voting down "remove examples using it as a trope". I mean, if we merge (which seems likely at this point), that option will become irrelevant, but in the remote chance we don't, surely it's the minimum we want to do. Having Common Eye Colors be used as a trope is like having Ordinary Clothes as a trope—it's not!
edited 21st Feb '17 3:25:08 PM by Xtifr
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.My impression is that the "Remove examples" option means that we only do that. The other two options are mutually exclusive with each other, after all.
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Alright, crowner says merge and cut wicks of Common Eye Colors, which I've implemented. Moving back to Blue Eyes now because many of the wicks weren't taken care of and the disambig probably merits being shorter.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanY-You work fast, man. I was able to remove maybe 3 links before you got them.
Fangs of the relentless thousandNow that's done, do we go through the other blue eyes tropes?
Well, the only blue trope worth actioning is Creepy Blue Eyes. Other tropes up for conversation are Personal Appearance Tropes (it should be merged into Meaningful Appearance, to emphasize that appearance on its own ain't a trope) or Windows To The Soul (to distinguish it from Windows of the Soul and because it's a duplicate of Meaningful Appearance)
More exotic, we could work on Hot Scoop to create a supertrope for all these "sexy + profession" tropes.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Hero Tropes is probably protected from misuse because we have The Hero as well as many "X Hero" tropes. "Hero" and "villain" may be tropes, but they're so high-level and nigh-omnipresent that people are not so much interested in knowing which characters are heroes/villains (that usually tends to be obvious, be it through appearance/behavior-based cues or the status being explicitly spelled out to the audience/readers at the character's debut), but rather what kind of hero/villain they are.
... A much more simpler reason, on the other hand, is that Hero Tropes has "Tropes" in the title, which makes it unambiguous that it's not a trope but rather an index of tropes. The name "Common Eye Colors", however, can be easily interpreted as being the name of a (super)trope rather than an index.
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.