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The Grand and Unified Appearance Trope Clean Up (now on ThighHighBoots):

Currently on the table: Thigh-High Boots

There is on TV Tropes, a common bad habit that persists among editors of using appearance tropes, or names that sound like they could be appearance tropes, badly. They always suffer from the same problems and they tend to clog up the TRS like they're on a revolving door. As such I'm making a large scale special effort in order to address the common problems all of these tropes have.

Sometimes non-appearance tropes are mistaken for appearance tropes. Report them here and the clean-up will be handled.

We're going to search for the best ways to change the culture and make sure that the misuse stops. Tropes will be handled here and we'll likely have a fair number of crowners on this thread. Keep checking back for new developments.

For full details, including the to-do list and crowner list, check this post.

edited 8th Apr '14 9:23:55 PM by Madrugada

 451 X Fllo, Thu, 4th Apr '13 6:33:54 PM Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
Would that be possible to add a header to the article that is currently on the table? As happens automatically with articles going through the TRS? I think it might help if Mismatched Eyes had a link to this thread.

 452 Noaqiyeum, Thu, 4th Apr '13 8:54:24 PM from across the gulf of space Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
nobody knows
[up] That's a good idea.
"I'm an odd person that likes to write odd people." - JHM
 453 Marq FJA, Sat, 6th Apr '13 11:40:46 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Statuesque Stunner may have a problem with its description/definition; specifically, whether or not the character's height has to be explicitly noted/emphasized as an attraction point — either in-universe or through visual effects — (as implied by the second paragraph) and how that fits with the following list of criteria near the end of the description:

Please note that for a woman to qualify for this trope, she needs to fulfill two criteria:

  1. She must be either taller than most men in her setting or stand at least 5'8" (172 cm) tall.
  2. She must either be considered attractive in-universe or be accompanied by Fanservice, Beauty or Attraction Tropes. *

Case in point: Chizuru Naba from Mahou Sensei Negima!. Fits both of the above criteria, but her height does not get any particular emphasis by anyone or the visual effects.

[down] Then again, most of the class are pretty tall in the first place — around 160-something cm on average, if I had to guess.

edited 6th Apr '13 11:51:33 AM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
For the sake of clarity, she's considered attractive, but her height is never mentioned. She doesn't look taller than anyone apart from children.

Even if the characters do have a height that would be considered tall IRL, does it really mean anything if everyone else in the work is the same height and taller? Kind of an Informed Attribute at that point.

I just feel like the "least 5'8" (172 cm) tall" requirement is a little too board.

 456 Marq FJA, Sat, 6th Apr '13 12:14:18 PM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
We're only talking about a specific Cast Herd within the much greater cast; IIRC most female characters shown in Negima (excluding ones that are from a normally large-sized nonhuman species) are not tall enough.

edited 6th Apr '13 12:14:43 PM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
^^ Other characters do have their height emphasized as part of their attractiveness, which is another reason that criteria needs to be tweaked. It's all about relative height, not about actual numbers. Compared to everyone else, Chizuru is not emphasized as being particularly tall, but there are at least two other characters who have their height and adult figure being a primary point of appeal.

I support rewriting that point to make it clear that it's relative.

 458 X Fllo, Tue, 9th Apr '13 7:53:32 PM Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
Hey, dear fellow tropers, haven't you seen the mod post? We should focus on Mismatched Eyes. It seems to me that the progress is a bit stalled. Statuesque Stunner is on to-do list.

 459 Ironeye, Wed, 10th Apr '13 3:02:55 PM from SoCal Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
The Duality Motif YKTTW is moving along, slowly, but still needs to collect a few more non-eye examples. Don't know if the other two ever got entries on YKTTW.
I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.
 460 Macron Notes, Wed, 10th Apr '13 3:22:54 PM from Wilkes Barre Relationship Status: Mu
Formerly known as Oreochan
I plan on taking "Unusual trait marks you as special" trope to the YKTTW, on either Saturday or Sunday.

 461 Marq FJA, Wed, 17th Apr '13 12:26:21 PM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Is Lady in Red strictly applicable to only dresses, or does wearing other kinds of prominent red-colored clothing qualify, like cloaks and so on?
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
Hey, I do not see Skunk Stripe on the to-do list. I think it should be. It suffers from the same problems most of these appearence tropes suffer from, the description lists a handful of things a skunk stripe could maye mean and the eamples list is just a bunch of people with streak in their hair. A lot of it is Locked into Strangeness and some is probably Power Dyes Your Hair or Disease Bleach and I am also seeing a lot of grey/white streaks representing an older but still attractive person which might need to be YKT Ted.

Anyways, I know you want to do one thing at a time but in the future Skunk Stripe could probably use the divide-and-sort that mismatched eyes is getting.

 463 X Fllo, Sat, 4th May '13 10:40:46 AM Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
[up][up] Lady in Red could be added on the list of tropes to deal with in the future among Clothes Tropes', but I don't think this one is misused. (Regarding your question, here's my quick answer: I think not. It must be something very sexy, and I'm not sure cloaks do convey that meaning.)

EDIT: [down] and [down][down] If we want to continue discussing Lady in Red, let's take it to Trope Talk. I'll be happy to provide my feedback.

edited 4th May '13 5:26:01 PM by XFllo

 464 Marq FJA, Sat, 4th May '13 2:49:50 PM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
[up] Regarding your quick answer: If that ends up being proven true, then we would have to clean up every case of Little Red Riding Hood-based story/character that has a Lady in Red entry associated with it (both on the article and in the wicks). Just a heads up, that's all.
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
Lady in Red is about red clothes being used for sex appeal. Does that really apply to Little Red Riding Hood? People like to read sexuality into it but I don't know why. She's a sweet, innocent girl in the original story.

 466 Marq FJA, Sat, 4th May '13 5:35:03 PM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Several modern versions of the story dispense with the "Little" in the title and age up the character into a teenager, or sometimes even an adult, often with a dash of Hotter and Sexier — especially if it's more of an allegorical re-imagining than being much more faithful to the original source, like in Red Riding Hood. Then there's the few Darker and Edgier / Bloodier and Gorier kinds of Little Red Fighting Hood.

edited 4th May '13 5:38:38 PM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
 467 X Fllo, Sat, 4th May '13 5:46:57 PM Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
[up] Please start a topic in Trope Talk. I'll be happy to give my opinions there. smile Shimaspawn who moderates this thread (I presume) has asked us to stay on topic and work on Mismatched Eyes. Link

edited 4th May '13 5:47:35 PM by XFllo

 468 Marq FJA, Sun, 5th May '13 3:48:14 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Done.

Now, where are we now regarding Mismatched Eyes? Anything done since the last update here?

edited 5th May '13 3:48:33 AM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
 469 Macron Notes, Tue, 7th May '13 6:12:09 AM from Wilkes Barre Relationship Status: Mu
Formerly known as Oreochan
Sorry, it slipped my mind, here's the YKTTW for Mark Of The Supernatural.

edited 11th May '13 11:35:10 AM by MacronNotes

[up] That looks ready to launch. Any thing else.

 471 Marq FJA, Sat, 8th Jun '13 12:00:19 PM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
... Is it just me who's experiencing a glitch with the forum system here? I clicked on this thread from my watchlist, and for some reason this page (No. 19) was empty of posts — not even the stickied post, to boot! It took refreshing the page to fix it... EDIT: And it came back after I clicked "send" in the new post screen.

[down] Thanks.

edited 8th Jun '13 12:01:59 PM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
 472 Septimus Heap, Sat, 8th Jun '13 12:01:20 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Under discussion

 473 Macron Notes, Wed, 12th Jun '13 12:23:13 PM from Wilkes Barre Relationship Status: Mu
Formerly known as Oreochan
Alright, Mark of the Supernatural has been launched. DualityMotif is still in the YKTTW and "shared unusual trait means connection" needs to be YKTTW'd

edited 12th Jun '13 12:31:36 PM by MacronNotes

 474 macronnotes, Fri, 21st Jun '13 9:30:34 PM from Wilkes Barre Relationship Status: Mu
Formerly known as Oreochan
To get this moving again, I made a YKTTW for Shared Unusual Trait.

 475 Macron Notes, Thu, 27th Jun '13 9:11:55 PM from Wilkes Barre Relationship Status: Mu
Formerly known as Oreochan
Sorry for triple posting, but I just launched Duality Motif today. I'm too tired to crosswick it however, so I'll do that later tomorrow. So, now, Shared Unusual Trait is the only YKTTW that we have to wait on.

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