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The Grand and Unified Appearance Trope Clean Up (now on ThighHighBoots):

Currently on the table: Thigh-High Boots

There is on TV Tropes, a common bad habit that persists among editors of using appearance tropes, or names that sound like they could be appearance tropes, badly. They always suffer from the same problems and they tend to clog up the TRS like they're on a revolving door. As such I'm making a large scale special effort in order to address the common problems all of these tropes have.

Sometimes non-appearance tropes are mistaken for appearance tropes. Report them here and the clean-up will be handled.

We're going to search for the best ways to change the culture and make sure that the misuse stops. Tropes will be handled here and we'll likely have a fair number of crowners on this thread. Keep checking back for new developments.

For full details, including the to-do list and crowner list, check this post.

edited 8th Apr '14 9:23:55 PM by Madrugada

 276 Septimus Heap, Wed, 9th Jan '13 11:33:13 AM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
And it would be discussion for YKTTW.

Yeah, I agree, there are not enough good examples here to even bother. Someone can make a slicked back hair trope some other time.

 278 shimaspawn, Wed, 9th Jan '13 1:03:19 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Yeah, it's good YKTTW fodder, but has nothing to do with Show The Forehead.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 279 Septimus Heap, Wed, 9th Jan '13 1:43:49 PM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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On another note: Crowner is already at 16:1, after only one day.

 280 Oreochan, Thu, 10th Jan '13 11:05:19 PM from Pennsylvania
I think there's another trope that needs to be cut: Plenty of Blondes. It seems to just be about having blonde hair.
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
 281 shimaspawn, Thu, 10th Jan '13 11:16:40 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Plenty of Blondes is not just about having blond hair. It's about an improbably high percentage of the cast having blond hair. That said, it needs some cleaning and all the aversions on it can probably be cut.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 282 Septimus Heap, Fri, 11th Jan '13 3:01:19 AM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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I see only two aversions, but it's not "probably" be cut, it just "cut".

 283 Septimus Heap, Fri, 11th Jan '13 3:35:38 PM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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Alerting the thread to this YKTTW. Please tread nicely, though.

 284 Troacctid, Fri, 11th Jan '13 11:59:57 PM from California
[up] The YKTTW is already attracting the same problematic examples as the old page. That's...a bad sign. tongue
Rhymes with "Protracted."
 285 lu 127, Sat, 12th Jan '13 3:07:09 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
With Mod Hat On
Calling to cut Show The Forehead.
迷子の足音消えた 代わりに祈りの唄
 286 Septimus Heap, Sat, 12th Jan '13 3:36:47 AM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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Wicks removed, page tagged and cutlisted.

Also, made the rename crowner for Mismatched Eyes.

I we wanna save these for later but I think zero context examples for hot character tropes should also be cut. Least the one's that don't have in-universe attractiveness as the only requirement collect massive amounts of these.

edited 12th Jan '13 7:21:56 AM by captainpat

 288 Septimus Heap, Sat, 12th Jan '13 1:34:41 PM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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Another YKTTW for your attention.

[up] So another eye colors trope? We really need more of those.

 290 Septimus Heap, Sun, 13th Jan '13 2:46:19 PM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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If they are tropes, yes. But many of these aren't.

 291 tdgoodrich 1, Sun, 13th Jan '13 2:47:55 PM from Atlanta Relationship Status: Californicating
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Pretty sure that was sarcasm, Septimus.
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 292 lu 127, Mon, 14th Jan '13 2:01:08 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Hooked.

I won't cast a vote yet, since I'm undecided. Mismatched Eyes Matter does sound better though.
迷子の足音消えた 代わりに祈りの唄
 293 Ironeye, Mon, 14th Jan '13 4:02:28 AM from SoCal Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Cutmaster-san
I'm more inclined to split: "[Trait] matters" doesn't seem like a trope to me. It will collect examples where the trait itself is unimportant to the usage, and mix them with examples where there is extra meaning from the trait. Contrast the examples for the Star Wars Expanded universe:
  • Gaeriel has heterochromia as a distinguishing feature. Though this is frequently commented on, it has no significance in the story and has no symbolic purpose. This is the sort of example I think everyone's willing to get rid of.
  • Malizna has heterochromia as a way of visually linking her back to her mother. In this case, the heterochromia has a purpose, but that purpose depends on [Distinguishing Trait], which just so happens to be heterochromia in this case.
  • Iceheart has red-blue heterochromia that symbolizes the duality of her extreme cold efficiency and her burning rage (both of which exceed that of the other characters in the stories where she appears). The other characters even pick up on this in a non-meta way. In this case, the mixed colors of the heterochromia is important.

The description suggests two tropes: Magical Mismatched Eyes and Mismatched Eyes Of Duality (placeholder names, of course), and the examples may suggest others. At the very least, Mismatched Eyes Of Duality has enough examples to become a subtrope even if we still keep Mismatched Eyes as "Heterochromia matters".
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^ Do with a have a trope for a physical trait that indicates two characters are related/ that a character has a certain ancestory?

I am thinking a split would be best as well. Divide up mismatched eyes into duality themed characters and characters where the mis-match indicates some sort of ablility and then shuffle examples where the mismatched eyes are just a trait the character is known for/identified by to a trope for that sort of thing that is meant for all unusual physical attributes and put examples where the eyes are an indicator of relationship to another character/family/god/whatever into a trope about that sort of thing applied to all unusual physical attributes. If tropes of that nature do not already exisit I think they would be worth creating.

edited 14th Jan '13 10:27:07 AM by willthiswork

 295 Septimus Heap, Mon, 14th Jan '13 10:22:26 AM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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Lost and Found is the place for this question.

Why don't we launch a "meaningful eye colors" supertrope before we continue dealing with all these subtropes? Or maybe we could repurpose Windows to the Soul, since this seems to be what it wanted to be, but fell flat.
 297 Septimus Heap, Mon, 14th Jan '13 12:22:06 PM from Muggio Valley, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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I assume that shimaspawn is so busy that she can't do it immediately. And anyway, waiting for a YKTTW, as TRS demonstrates, is a great way to freeze up things.

 298 shimaspawn, Mon, 14th Jan '13 1:49:58 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
We're going to have a meaningful appearance supertrope instead of just having it based on eye colour. I just haven't had the time to get around to making it.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
 299 Troacctid, Mon, 14th Jan '13 2:40:22 PM from California
Can we use the word "Symbolism" instead of "Meaningful"? Because "Meaningful" is super vague, and symbolism is what we really want to talk about anyway.

edited 14th Jan '13 2:41:03 PM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
 300 shimaspawn, Mon, 14th Jan '13 3:03:06 PM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Symbolic generally has very little to do with it. Plot significance is more often what we're looking at. There's nothing symbolic about all the blonds in A Song of Ice and Fire, but there is plot significance to the Lannister's blond hair revealing parentage.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
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