The Grand Unified Appearance Trope Clean-up: Currently on: Windows To The Soul

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Currently on the table: Windows to the Soul

There is on TV Tropes, a common bad habit that persists among editors of using appearance tropes, or names that sound like they could be appearance tropes, badly. They always suffer from the same problems and they tend to clog up the TRS like they're on a revolving door. As such I'm making a large scale special effort in order to address the common problems all of these tropes have.

Sometimes non-appearance tropes are mistaken for appearance tropes. Report them here and the clean-up will be handled.

We're going to search for the best ways to change the culture and make sure that the misuse stops. Tropes will be handled here and we'll likely have a fair number of crowners on this thread. Keep checking back for new developments.

For full details, including the to-do list and crowner list, check this post.

All appearance tropes that show more than 50% misuse and/or ZCEs on a wick check may be cut freely after posting the wick check here on the thread for approval as per crowner results.

edited 25th Mar '18 11:30:49 AM by SeptimusHeap

276 SeptimusHeap9th Jan 2013 11:33:13 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
And it would be discussion for YKTTW.
Yeah, I agree, there are not enough good examples here to even bother. Someone can make a slicked back hair trope some other time.
278 shimaspawn9th Jan 2013 01:03:19 PM from Here and Now , Relationship Status: In your bunk
Yeah, it's good YKTTW fodder, but has nothing to do with Show The Forehead.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
279 SeptimusHeap9th Jan 2013 01:43:49 PM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
On another note: Crowner is already at 16:1, after only one day.
280 Oreochan10th Jan 2013 11:05:19 PM from Pennsylvania
I think there's another trope that needs to be cut: Plenty of Blondes. It seems to just be about having blonde hair.
"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
281 shimaspawn10th Jan 2013 11:16:40 PM from Here and Now , Relationship Status: In your bunk
Plenty of Blondes is not just about having blond hair. It's about an improbably high percentage of the cast having blond hair. That said, it needs some cleaning and all the aversions on it can probably be cut.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
282 SeptimusHeap11th Jan 2013 03:01:19 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
I see only two aversions, but it's not "probably" be cut, it just "cut".
283 SeptimusHeap11th Jan 2013 03:35:38 PM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
Alerting the thread to this YKTTW. Please tread nicely, though.
[up] The YKTTW is already attracting the same problematic examples as the old page. That's...a bad sign. tongue
Rhymes with "Protracted."
Calling to cut Show The Forehead.
286 SeptimusHeap12th Jan 2013 03:36:47 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
Wicks removed, page tagged and cutlisted.

Also, made the rename crowner for Mismatched Eyes.
I we wanna save these for later but I think zero context examples for hot character tropes should also be cut. Least the one's that don't have in-universe attractiveness as the only requirement collect massive amounts of these.

edited 12th Jan '13 7:21:56 AM by captainpat

288 SeptimusHeap12th Jan 2013 01:34:41 PM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
Another YKTTW for your attention.
[up] So another eye colors trope? We really need more of those.
290 SeptimusHeap13th Jan 2013 02:46:19 PM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
If they are tropes, yes. But many of these aren't.
291 tdgoodrich113th Jan 2013 02:47:55 PM from Atlanta , Relationship Status: Californicating
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Pretty sure that was sarcasm, Septimus.
"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop

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I won't cast a vote yet, since I'm undecided. Mismatched Eyes Matter does sound better though.
293 Ironeye14th Jan 2013 04:02:28 AM from SoCal , Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
I'm more inclined to split: "[Trait] matters" doesn't seem like a trope to me. It will collect examples where the trait itself is unimportant to the usage, and mix them with examples where there is extra meaning from the trait. Contrast the examples for the Star Wars Expanded universe:
  • Gaeriel has heterochromia as a distinguishing feature. Though this is frequently commented on, it has no significance in the story and has no symbolic purpose. This is the sort of example I think everyone's willing to get rid of.
  • Malizna has heterochromia as a way of visually linking her back to her mother. In this case, the heterochromia has a purpose, but that purpose depends on [Distinguishing Trait], which just so happens to be heterochromia in this case.
  • Iceheart has red-blue heterochromia that symbolizes the duality of her extreme cold efficiency and her burning rage (both of which exceed that of the other characters in the stories where she appears). The other characters even pick up on this in a non-meta way. In this case, the mixed colors of the heterochromia is important.

The description suggests two tropes: Magical Mismatched Eyes and Mismatched Eyes Of Duality (placeholder names, of course), and the examples may suggest others. At the very least, Mismatched Eyes Of Duality has enough examples to become a subtrope even if we still keep Mismatched Eyes as "Heterochromia matters".
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^ Do with a have a trope for a physical trait that indicates two characters are related/ that a character has a certain ancestory?

I am thinking a split would be best as well. Divide up mismatched eyes into duality themed characters and characters where the mis-match indicates some sort of ablility and then shuffle examples where the mismatched eyes are just a trait the character is known for/identified by to a trope for that sort of thing that is meant for all unusual physical attributes and put examples where the eyes are an indicator of relationship to another character/family/god/whatever into a trope about that sort of thing applied to all unusual physical attributes. If tropes of that nature do not already exisit I think they would be worth creating.

edited 14th Jan '13 10:27:07 AM by willthiswork

295 SeptimusHeap14th Jan 2013 10:22:26 AM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
Lost and Found is the place for this question.
Why don't we launch a "meaningful eye colors" supertrope before we continue dealing with all these subtropes? Or maybe we could repurpose Windows to the Soul, since this seems to be what it wanted to be, but fell flat.
297 SeptimusHeap14th Jan 2013 12:22:06 PM from Laniakea , Relationship Status: Mu
I assume that shimaspawn is so busy that she can't do it immediately. And anyway, waiting for a YKTTW, as TRS demonstrates, is a great way to freeze up things.
298 shimaspawn14th Jan 2013 01:49:58 PM from Here and Now , Relationship Status: In your bunk
We're going to have a meaningful appearance supertrope instead of just having it based on eye colour. I just haven't had the time to get around to making it.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
Can we use the word "Symbolism" instead of "Meaningful"? Because "Meaningful" is super vague, and symbolism is what we really want to talk about anyway.

edited 14th Jan '13 2:41:03 PM by troacctid

Rhymes with "Protracted."
300 shimaspawn14th Jan 2013 03:03:06 PM from Here and Now , Relationship Status: In your bunk
Symbolic generally has very little to do with it. Plot significance is more often what we're looking at. There's nothing symbolic about all the blonds in A Song of Ice and Fire, but there is plot significance to the Lannister's blond hair revealing parentage.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick

Page Action: Windows To The Soul 2
30th Apr '18 1:52:30 PM
What would be the best way to fix the page?
At issue:
Windows To The Soul and Windows Of The Soul are nigh identical in name and similar in subject. This crowner seeks to resolve the confusion this creates and prevent more from generating.

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