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YKTTW Crash Rescue - Fixing prematurely launched YKTTWs and pages:

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Prematurely launched pages, pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through YKTTW for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, no crosswicking etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages

edited 23rd Sep '13 11:41:28 AM by SeptimusHeap

Seeking for Light
Conceive and Kill is in TRS, which means it's out of this thread's jurisdiction. (Although, for the record, I don't support expanding Black Widow, because its current definition is what the term actually means.)

Re: Lightbulbs For A Face: This thread doesn't do renames, just "(back) to YKTTW" or "cut".
152 MarqFJA9th Feb 2013 02:01:13 PM from Saudi Arabia , Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Re Lightbulbs For A Face: Sending back to YKTTW works as well. From the looks of it, some had noted that it Needs a Better Title during YKTTW stage, but s/he was ignored. As was the mod request for getting rid of or fleshing out the Zero Context Examples.

edited 9th Feb '13 2:05:09 PM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
153 StarSword9th Feb 2013 08:26:18 PM from somewhere in deep space , Relationship Status: In denial
SF-81A Black Knight
Cerberus Logic seems to have been launched before the YKTTW discussion on it was even completely sure what it meant.
  • Strike one: nonsensical name with horrific case of Trope-Namer Syndrome.
  • Strike two: no examples on trope page.
  • Strike three: zero hats.
154 Nohbody9th Feb 2013 08:34:19 PM from Somewhere in Dixie , Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
It breaks the baseball analogy, but snowclones (in this case, of Cerebus Retcon and/or Cerebus Syndrome via misspelling of "Cerebus") are discouraged as well.

edited 9th Feb '13 8:35:31 PM by Nohbody

155 tdgoodrich19th Feb 2013 08:34:53 PM from Atlanta , Relationship Status: Californicating
Just a Dry Gin Drinker, Master and a Hound
Send author a PM about procedure here, then torch it.
"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop

"I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohen
156 StarSword9th Feb 2013 08:51:57 PM from somewhere in deep space , Relationship Status: In denial
SF-81A Black Knight
Cutlisted the page and PM'ed the OP, but I think the trope might be salvageable (near as I can tell, the intended meaning is "hero who only got involved because he was attacked personally" or something to that effect). Here's the YKTTW archive if you want to take a look.
157 nrjxll9th Feb 2013 08:58:22 PM , Relationship Status: Not war
[up]Isn't that Heroic Neutral?
158 shimaspawn9th Feb 2013 11:34:16 PM from Here and Now , Relationship Status: In your bunk
Nocturna, this thread does renames if they're done in YKTTW. When we send tropes back to YKTTW we are not required to keep the names they were mislaunched with.

Do not open new TRS to rename badly launched tropes. They're new enough that better names do not need their own thread. Please keep things here.

As such, I'm leaving Lightbulbs For A Face with you to handle.

edited 9th Feb '13 11:35:47 PM by shimaspawn

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
159 MarqFJA10th Feb 2013 07:06:59 AM from Saudi Arabia , Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Thank you for the clarification, shima. I apologize for opening that TRS unnecessarily, in any case.

edited 10th Feb '13 7:07:07 AM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
160 SeptimusHeap10th Feb 2013 07:15:09 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
I don't feel this needs an apology. TRS rules aren't codified anywhere for now, and the only attempt here hasn't had official approval yet.
Seeking for Light
Ah, okay. It's just that the TRS thread was already opened, so I assumed that meant it had moved out of this thread's proper authority. I'll keep that in mind for the future, though. (Also, to me at least, "rename (without return to YKTTW)" and "back to YKTTW (where it might get a rename as part of the further work on it)" are separate concepts.)

Anyone have any suggestions for a new name for Lightbulbs For A Face? I recall seeing Lightbulb Eyes proposed in either the YKTTW or the TRS thread.

162 MarqFJA11th Feb 2013 12:58:10 AM from Saudi Arabia , Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
I'd suggest Glowing Eyes, Shadowed Face, personally.
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
163 Larkmarn11th Feb 2013 11:24:59 AM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
@Nohbody: Actually, it's not a snowclone. It's a reference to an organization called Cerberus from Mass Effect... although the guy who made the YKTTW doesn't even know that.

... it was a hilariously bad YKTTW.
164 SeptimusHeap11th Feb 2013 01:26:29 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Blue-Collar Warlock. Just cutlisted, by the way.
165 Fighteer11th Feb 2013 02:18:20 PM from the Time Vortex , Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Army Of Lazy, by eulmanis12. I threw it in the trash heap.
166 SeptimusHeap11th Feb 2013 02:22:44 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
I think that is a trope, but it needs more examples and a description that doesn't talk so much about "This isn't that trope".
167 Fighteer11th Feb 2013 02:24:02 PM from the Time Vortex , Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
If someone wants to schlep it into YKTTW before it gets cut, be my guest.
168 Fighteer11th Feb 2013 02:24:57 PM from the Time Vortex , Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Another one: Ishida Mitsunari. If this guy is actually a common character in period works, then he belongs in Useful Notes.
169 SeptimusHeap11th Feb 2013 02:26:19 PM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
That one looks like Useful Notes material to me.
170 Fighteer12th Feb 2013 07:06:42 AM from the Time Vortex , Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
What in the balls is Will Ross-Girard?
171 Nohbody12th Feb 2013 07:08:01 AM from Somewhere in Dixie , Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
Besides Cutlist fodder? tongue

Looks like a character sheet for someone who doesn't deserve one, at a glance. (Not familiar with Lovecraft's writings, so no comment on the accuracy of what's given.)

edited 12th Feb '13 7:10:49 AM by Nohbody

172 MarqFJA12th Feb 2013 07:15:45 AM from Saudi Arabia , Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Just to be sure, we are allowed to cutlist Lightbulbs For A Face for re-YKTTWing, right?
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
173 Fighteer12th Feb 2013 07:17:27 AM from the Time Vortex , Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Sure, do it.
174 MarqFJA12th Feb 2013 08:09:53 AM from Saudi Arabia , Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Done. Waiting for a Cut Master now.
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
175 ShadowHog12th Feb 2013 01:16:40 PM from Earth , Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
Avatar by Neoriceisgood
Re: Lightbulb Face: Also kind of annoyed that the guy never bothered to add my Loom example to the text, or offer an explanation as to why it wouldn't count. :S
Moon

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