"Girl Meets World" (Sequel Series to "Boy Meets World")

Equality is one thing. Propping somebody up artificially just reeks of "I'm sorry, we realized you actually CAN'T do it on your own, so let's just create the illusion of equality and hope it catches."

I can think of some legit reasons the guys might cut Riley out of this, but being a girl ain't one of them. With her loopy personality she'd probably have some weird, out there, "why are you doing this again" project that just doesn't make sense.

...Riley is really insufferable this episode. It's trying really too hard with this and she's coming off as out of character in this one to me given that he never treated her as inferior for being a girl like she was acting, he's just a report hog who is obsessed with something he's shown he's loved anyway and would do the same to a guy.

Going to add to my pure dislike of this episode and more it the A plot with Riley personifies much the reason there are people who are turned off by 3rd wave feminism. First huge thing is that if you're going to go for equality between nothing, have to recognize that nothing undercuts it more than portraying women as irrationally hating men while men just act scared and take the hate. It's not empowering! It's bullshit power plays for dominance and using fact that there was bad shit once to play victim card and rationalize being obnoxious now. Putting one gender down to prop up another helps nobody.

Also, you shouldn't just force girls to be interested in science, like this was going for. No, you should encourage those WHO ACTUALLY CARE! Take the Maya example. Riley told her she has to, even if she didn't want to. That's bullshit! Maya's shown to be more artistic type and it's where she applies herself. Want to go for empowerment, just encourage her there - as has done throughout this series anyway. Don't undermine concept of free will and such.

Eh, my thoughts are jumbled as of now, this episode just hit on all kinds of issues with me in presentation due to it's heavyhandedness, especially with how Riley treated Farkle and never apologizing for it. Him being a report hog isn't the best thing at all, though call him on that flaw as opposed to presenting Riley as a Designated Hero with some informed interest we've never seen before.

Can't believe I'm about to say this, but the Ava & Auggie part was better.

edited 9th Jan '16 10:05:22 AM by Prime_of_Perfection

I won't be seeing this til later in the week but I'll post up my thoughts after I've given it the usual two viewings.

The real issue with the Show is that its too on the nose about its Subjects. So when you get needed episodes like this, they get waaay too overbearing and pretty much handle things wrong. haven't seen the episode yet but its usually the case.

Charlie isn't written badly, he's your typical nice guy who thinks he deserves a girl because he knows more about her and everything

Zay is actually a dope character given he pretty much sees through most of the casts BS.

I was actually thinking about that the other day and I agree entirely that the show's too overhanded. Really, this book I have on writing themes puts it best: When misused, theme can become a ham-handed moral statement in black and white, alienating the reader/ audience with its dogmatic pontifications. That sums up this show's problem.

I've only seen the latter 3rd of the episode and there was admittedly one part I liked: Just when you think they're going to go with the tired "girls prove to be better than boys" cliche, they subvert it by having their project litterally blow up in their face.

The ending is what I also liked as it showed actual feminism instead of the misandry-filled fauxminism that seems to be more about supremacy than actual equality. But that's for another discussion.

edited 12th Jan '16 12:13:38 PM by LLSmoothJ

Which no other Disney show I've watched does. Its like the writers thought Disney's live action shows worked that way when they work more like the original BMW did with its subjects.

I saw it. It was pretty ridiculous but not as bad as I thought it would be. Still not good. I mean, Only Riley gave two shits about the project and there's nothing of a "boys think they're better" impression about it.

It would have been better just to figure out why the girls get out of STEM and work on that angle, not make a boring project like that with a simple component to it.

edited 15th Jan '16 2:21:55 PM by Journeyman

Won't say much about the new episode since the only thing I remember is Mark Cuban's appearance. Between Riley's Knicks rant, and Cuban's Take That! towards Riley's support of the Knicks, a part of me wants to see IFC Yipes show up in the middle of Riley's Knicks rant and say something that's the PG equivalent of "Fuck the Knicks" for some reason.

I wonder how long before Disney gets Carmelo or Porzingis to guest star on the show?

edited 24th Jan '16 3:00:10 PM by Lionheart0

I don't think they ever say how that whole thing with Farkle's family got resolved. I watched twice and all I know is Status Quo Is God took full swing. Was that even real or was it a set-up for the episode?

Real from what I can tell and it never did explain. I just imagine it came around or something and didn't lose any money.

Regardless, I really did enjoy that episode there!

"The technology I bet on was so sophisticated that we couldn't even see if it was successful. I bet on the right thing. Someday you will inherit one of the world's most successful companies."

So yeah, basically Minkus freaked out that his stock tickers plummeted, but it eventually recovered. Writing-wise, it was definitely due to Status Quo Is God.

edited 14th Feb '16 10:55:30 AM by somerndmguy

So far this show's looking like a bell curve. Started off meh, got good, and now it's back sliding down the slope. Did we really need a Communism episode? And they didn't even get it right, just parroted off the cliff notes version.

And oh boy is it ever bell-curving. "Bay Window" was generally pretty bad to sit through, especially with the child actors.

That said, I laughed out loud at Lucas still looking like a teenager back when he was a little kid. It's probably one of the better Lucas jokes in a long time. (Would that make him The Ageless or something else?)

I'll have to watch it later this week. As for Ageless, it depends on if he was still played by the same actor and looked exactly the same, or just someone else who looked like a teen. He'd be ageless if he was still played by Peyton Meyer (However you spell it) in the kid scenes.

Yes but it was a fantasy sequenece. The whole episode was very meta. I for one loved it.

Lucas looks at some photos of him and his friends as a kid, but it's actually a photo of himself as a teenager with a bunch of kids. He notes that "something is seriously wrong." At this point it's supposedly out of the fantasy sequence.

The whole gag is obviously Rule of Funny but still.

"Legacy" spoilers:

GAH! Why can't they end this romance storyline? But generally speaking, there were some pretty earnest moments which starkly contrasts with the filler episodes between this one and "New Year."

I'm glad, however, that Lucas is finally getting a chance to point out that his opinion wasn't ever addressed before this.

I just wish the writers at least showed like they know what they're doing with this plot.

Who knows what they'll do. I still think there's four options, though the fourth is never brought up. Because our culture's not ready for it to be out there like that, I guess. And certainly not in a kid's show. They'll probably eventually cop out of it by having one or both girls find a high school sweetheart who isn't Lucas.

I still like this show, but does anyone think its getting too overly dramatic? Even the original series, though definitely having serious dramatic moments, was never this heavy on drama.

Season premier and it's a stoozy. (Stupid doozy.) A small pack of seniors single out the main characters and put them through the ringer to break them up and teach them a lesson. Sounds like a jealous pack of friends who obsessed about them through the last few seasons for some odd reason.

It kind of highlighted the major shortcoming of this series. I feel like no one has normal conversations, everything is like massive expositions.

This show definitely took the life lessons part of BMW and rolled with it. On the one hand it's annoying, but on the other it makes sense given what Cory and Topanga were like at the end of that one.

Still, the dialogue and interactions are just so unrealistic that it's hard to stay immersed in the story at this point.

But in a way I'm glad that Lucas is starting to crack a little. He's substantially more interesting (and funny) now that he's not a Marty Stu-type love interest.