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TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
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#626: Sep 18th 2013 at 7:30:11 PM

[up]It can happen. Make sure you don't have proggies running while it's updating and that you have a stable connection. Someday you'll find it, a stable connection, the lovers, the dreamers...

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#627: Sep 18th 2013 at 8:25:01 PM

Was it a cheap laptop? Sometimes they have a lot of extra bloatware that gets in the way. My wife's laptop (which came down to about $250 after a sale, a display unit discount, and a manager's discount because it had some muck stuck to the lid and it was from the previous model rotation) had so much bloatware on it that it could barely run. I ran the included Toshiba system restore utility which had an option to do a factory install without all of the extra crap, just the drivers and software needed to run the laptop's hardware features, rather than extra "free" crapware. Thing runs like a champ now.

Imca (Veteran)
#628: Sep 18th 2013 at 10:51:05 PM

I dont get the point of all the bloatwear any way, do the companies play to have those programs pre-installed?

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#629: Sep 18th 2013 at 11:39:40 PM

He wasn't cheap, no... and nothing should have been running, because I'd just shut him down. Ah well. Hopefully this was a one off.

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TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
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#630: Sep 19th 2013 at 12:29:22 AM

[up][up]Imca, many companies put their own media players or their own versions of popular software on laptops. Sony, HP/Compaq, and most of the major PC makers put bloatware on laptops so as to: pester you when you play movies, nag you with ads, track your IE browsing habits and some actually duplicate things like windows update.

Most printer makers toss in bloatware with their drivers because they hate their user base. Lexmark and HP have decent scanner/OCR apps, but they are kinda clunky.

edited 19th Sep '13 12:29:53 AM by TairaMai

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Medinoc Chaotic Greedy from France Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#631: Sep 19th 2013 at 1:56:41 AM

This isn't bloatware, it's shovelware. Bloatware is when any program turns out to be a resource-hogging snail.

Of course, since shovelware is usually low-quality, it can very well be bloatware too.

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TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
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#632: Sep 19th 2013 at 4:09:11 AM

[up]Pretty much the same thing when it's Sony or HP.

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#633: Sep 19th 2013 at 8:06:38 AM

Isn't shovelware something extremely low quality made in a short time span? Most of the pre installed programs are subjective to that regard.

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Imca (Veteran)
#634: Sep 19th 2013 at 11:23:22 AM

I have never had any issues with a Sony.

But then agian I always buy topshelf computers.

wuggles Since: Jul, 2009
#635: Sep 19th 2013 at 7:49:43 PM

I have a Sony that cost about $800 that I bought at the beginning of August. I have to say that Windows 8 isn't that bad. You can use the desktop mode and it's basically like having Windows 7. But I don't like the fact that it opens files like music and photos in the weird start menu options way.

occono from Ireland. Since: Apr, 2009
#636: Oct 14th 2013 at 8:23:47 AM

OK now Windows 8 is giving me a huge problem.

Microsoft removed Ad Hoc connections for some reason. My dorm only has ethernet. I need to use my laptop as a router for my 3DS and phone.

Only option google points to Connectify.

Connectify free version turns off wi-fi every hour unless you give them money.

FFS Microsoft.

Anyone help?

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TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
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#637: Oct 14th 2013 at 8:37:37 AM

Ad hoc networks — You can’t create an ad hoc network in Windows 8 and Windows RT, but you can connect to an ad hoc network if one is in range (unless your PC is running Windows RT). There are third-party tools for creating ad hoc networks, if you need to do this

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edited 14th Oct '13 8:43:58 AM by TairaMai

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PeiraIssaNoid Zeddicrux from Surf Ninja Moon X Since: Sep, 2013
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#638: Oct 16th 2013 at 5:47:35 AM

so I got windows 8 and blugh

there's one thing that nobody talks about and that's the fact that some programs (music, winrar, PICTURES) seem to be in their own little world; it's inconvenient as hell. They have their own screen and it's absolutely unnecessary. I dread having to listen to music through Xbox Music and thus I've only used it four times within a two month period.

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#639: Oct 16th 2013 at 6:00:22 AM

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I hear you brother

The Win8 PDF reader is a massive crock of shit. In it's own claustrophobic screen, and you can only read one at a time. Which, if, like me, your work involves a lot of PDF files of case reports etc, is really fucking annoying.

edited 16th Oct '13 6:00:37 AM by Achaemenid

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TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
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#640: Oct 16th 2013 at 6:46:51 AM

What about adobe or some other PDF reader?

Balmer needs to go away...far away and take some of the other marketing a-holes with him.

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#641: Oct 16th 2013 at 6:51:26 AM

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That's what I did in the end, and Windows Defender went batshit. Which is suspicious...

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#642: Oct 16th 2013 at 7:13:29 AM

another thing that pisses me off is just how unfriendly it comes off. everything is so big and imposing it almost feels like I'm being talked down to.

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#643: Oct 16th 2013 at 7:24:26 AM

Take a look at this Cracked article regarding the Windows 8 hating its user.

In a nutshell, it seems Windows 8 was only made for the people who created it, not us, the consumer.

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#644: Oct 16th 2013 at 8:10:30 AM

Something I'm still not used to is how claustrophobic it is. I don't like it when my computer freezes (which it does if I ask it to load certain websites - Cheezburger is one). I hate not being able to see the desktop and the mouse - and Windows 8 is made of that.

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TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
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#645: Oct 16th 2013 at 10:37:39 AM

I called it many pages back: Someone told Balmer about that "tablet thing-y" and he went all in. Only to have his brains beat in by Google and Apple.

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Meklar from Milky Way Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
#646: Oct 16th 2013 at 11:26:56 AM

In a nutshell, it seems Windows 8 was only made for the people who created it, not us, the consumer.
I doubt that. As a programmer, practically nothing I've heard about the new features in Windows 8 sounds like anything I would want to have while programming (or doing pretty much anything else).

Basically the only two advantages I've heard of so far are that it hogs less system resources and that its graphics drivers are better. Neither of these things is particularly useful for programming.

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MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land Since: Jan, 2001
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#647: Oct 16th 2013 at 11:51:02 AM

I spose for gaming though its pretty good. I can run Half Life 2 on my laptop at Standard settings pretty well.

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Imca (Veteran)
#648: Oct 16th 2013 at 12:41:37 PM

Thats.... a computer thing, not a OS thing.

OS wise, windows 8 is so bad for gaming, valve went "Fuck this" and are making there own OS.

Closed architecture is horrible for games, its one of two reasons no one likes to make games for mac.

edited 16th Oct '13 12:42:15 PM by Imca

Heatth from Brasil Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#649: Oct 16th 2013 at 12:42:33 PM

[up][up][up]That is not what they meant. They meant it is Windows 8 (and many gadgets) are designed for the user necessities of the ones who designed. As exampled by the focus on tablet. A tablet is not that great for programing per se, but the Microsoft designers use tablet frequently, so they design a OS focused on tablet. It is to appeal to them as users, not as programmers.

Not saying I agree, but that is what the article is saying.

edited 16th Oct '13 9:53:50 PM by Heatth

MightyKombat And? And? And? And? AND? from New PC Land Since: Jan, 2001
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#650: Oct 16th 2013 at 12:43:14 PM

Oh. I was talking about the graphics card thing. Sorry.

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