Welcome to MeI know I'm known for starting these types of topics (haha, I love this forum because the subjects are so interesting) Here are some characters I feel bad for:
edited 16th Oct '12 6:01:00 PM by MsCC93
Buttons from Animaniacs. Um... that's probably it. I guess I'm just not empathetic enough to feel sorry for cartoon characters.
edited 17th Oct '12 2:14:18 PM by redhed311
I've heard that the official word on Meg Griffen is that the writers never quite knew what to do with her, and so just ended up making her a Butt Monkey. I was inclined to feel sorry for her for awhile, but then after awhile I realized that pretty much everyone on The Family Guy, Meg included, has been completely monstrous (remember when she had Brian tied to a chair and gave every indication of being about to rape him?), and the victim of monstrous behavior at various times. The show is a complete and utter farce, and nothing about it should really be taken seriously.
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Add Twilight Sparkle to that as well. Along with Rainbow Dash. Somehow I think Jerkass Woobies are more effective. Meg, along with Brian are conditional examples. Often they get the most unfair amount of abuse in the show, but every now and then they do something equally vindictive and irredeemable to remind us that were the circumstances any different, they would be as cruel as the rest of the family. Frizz and Nug of The Dreamstone, they're villains but over the top pitiful ones who, much in the vien of the Double D example, are dragged kicking and screaming into every mission by their eviler peers, where they suffer enormous abuse and are usually mercilessly punished as a group by the heroes. Even the odd time they do something competent the manner it is brought down comes off as incredibly contrived and cruel, and unlike most Harmless Villains they are rarely ever Thrown A Bone. Sgt Blob occasionally applies as well, he's more of a willing Jerk Ass, but still more loyal than evil, and shares a near equal amount of abuse every episode. Butters of South Park. His entire family is abusive, most of his "friends" bully or are completely apathetic towards him and he's one of the very few characters who isn't a cynical Jerk Ass. Stan also applies in later episodes. Cat of CatDog. He can be a Jerk Ass, but 90% of his abuse stems completely from Dog's stupidity or the cruelty of the Crapsack World around him. Squidward of SpongeBob SquarePants to a lesser extent applies under similar stipulations.
edited 16th Oct '12 6:06:52 PM by Psi001
Welcome to Me@ 3. Yeah I don't really take shows like Family Guy seriously..I guess the only person in the Griffin family who isn't a Butt Monkey is Chris. The only reason why people feel bad for Meg is because she suffers the most out of all the characters.
I think the key factor is that Meg is often bullied or abused when she is being perfectly nice. Same for Brian (he's often a Karma Houdini when being a complete asshole). The running premise for how abuse is shared in the show tends to handed to who least deserves it.
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edited 16th Oct '12 6:28:58 PM by MsCC93
And at least James and Meowth willingly went into villainy by their own free will. Hell even Wile E Coyote, who most certainly deserves a mention here, could quit at any time. Frizz and Nug, who lack that justification, just seem like outright Cosmic Playthings This is kind of the reason I wasn't big on the Hippety Hopper shorts either, where Sylvester was bullied into getting beating after beating from the kangaroo (to the extent at least one episode had him being 'ping ponged' by him and a disgusted bulldog), the ones with Junior were a bit better because he was being motivated by pride, but even then he was being admonished by his own son, and Sylvester is already pretty sympathetic when a normal (and completely pathetic) villain. Brian seems a little less sympathetic in newer episodes, if only because they enthasise his over the top pretentiousness and selfishness in such situations. He did spend that episode being chewed out disproportionately by Quagmire and his own family, but at the same he was being a pompous douche who made the mistake of constantly trying to weaselling attention from the wrong people. He wasn't really remorseful about having sex with his dad either, just completely revulsed and pretty much refers to 'her' as a freak of nature. Shelley admitedly seems to have become far less of a sociopath in later seasons. In Broadway Bro Down she is just out and out sympathetic.
edited 16th Oct '12 6:48:47 PM by Psi001
I like meat too much.I always felt kinda bad for the Eds when things didn't go their way, which was often.
I managed to find another one to feel sorry for: Sidney Huffman, one of Roger's personas from American Dad!. Talk about Break the Cutie (although it was technically self-inflicted).
Remember that one, probably the nearest Roger got to looking outright evil (even including the odd time he's an actual villain). Klaus also counts under similar stipulations as Meg. Openly hated and ignored by even the most compassionate of the Smiths. Add Dr Zoidberg as well. Pretty much any character that the cast actually breaks character just to be mean to. This is a more unusual (and conditional) example, but there are times I feel sorry for Stan. There are times he's a near blatant Villain Protagonist, but he's had a crappy life growing up, and his family isn't much moral than him (his wife is a near equal sociopath, his daughter is a hypocritical rebel who bases her every action on spiting him, his son is an occasional Bratty Half-Pint, and his two "pets" are psychopaths). Even when his actions are at least partially justified he Can't Get Away with Nuthin' and ends up enabling the Jerk Ass antics of everyone around him.
edited 17th Oct '12 5:45:30 PM by Psi001
YAY MURDER! :3Both Maceline and The Ice King. Especially after you find out more of their backstories. (Like this week's episode for example…)
edited 17th Oct '12 8:56:08 PM by dmysta3000
How did we get this far into the thread and not mention the DCAU Mister Freeze?
Sloving cases one by oneHere’s my list The Ed boys- Now for granted, there are a few things that the eds have done to outdo themselves to greatness. But I know that these three get picked on way too much. For instance, the Halloween episode had all the kids beating the hell out of Double D and Eddy over ed’s actions. Don’t even get me started on how much sarah treats ed, for crying out loud. Ed’s the older brother, he shouldn’t be picked down by his bratty control freaked older sister. Jared- Alright, I have a feeling I’m not the only one who feels bad for Jared. There are times where I just say “gee, it sucks to be him.” Some of the warden’s actions always go haywire and what does Jared get out of it? Nothing but flack, when he saw his love interest, both of the warden’s took it away from them. Plus, at times the warden treats Jared like crap. Its no wonder why jared pushed him in the episode superfail. Mr freeze- for granted, who feels sorry for this guy? He lost his wife and is in a cold state. And he is forever cursed to be coldhearted for the rest of his days(literally). Bit surprised Charlie Brown isn’t mentioned on here since we all know he went through a lot of shit and got flack for it.
edited 18th Oct '12 3:01:45 PM by Theoriginalblader
It should be pointed out that Charlie Brown of Peanuts is not the only woobie. Lucy, for all her Jerkass behaviour, comes off as rather pitiful for trying to get the affection of Schroeder, who will never return it. The Cutie Mark Crusaders of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic are woobies to me. Why? Well, Apple Bloom wants to get her Cutie Mark, and well, there has to have been a time in your life when you wanted something so badly you would do anything! Sweetie Belle in "Sisterhooves Social" ended up as this, but she gave Rarity well-deserved payback. While Scootaloo hasn't gotten her own episode yet, there are claims that her wings are crippled/disabled, and that she will never be able to fly like all the other Pegasus Ponies. Which would make her desire to be like Rainbow Dash a Tragic Dream....
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Welcome to Me@Psi001 You're right about James and Meowth, although they are wrong for always going along with what Jessie does, they receive more sympathy from fans since they are just jerks with hearts of gold with bad pasts. There are times when they don't want to go along with Jessie's evil schemes, but Jessie makes them do it anyway. Jessie sometimes gets my sympathy when she doesn't act like a jerk. Nothing ever went right for Wild E Coyote. Nothing. I wish they ended the series with him finally catching the road runner. Even though Brian really didn't feel all that bad with sleeping with Quagmire's transsexual dad, YMMV, but I still felt bad for him because him realizing what he did was all that he deserved to suffer. Plus, the writers tried to make people sympathize with him by making him feel suicidal at times , but their efforts failed since most of the audience loved to see him suffer since he's seen as a scrappy. Yeah and on the episode when Shelley's boyfriend died. Plus, her parents actually tell her to stop acting so violent towards Stan.
Another Woobie I would like to add is Lilo from Lilo and Stitch. I also felt sorry for May Kanker in the Valentine's special on Ed Edd n Eddy, since she didn't do anything wrong. Plus, it was revealed that she was indeed smart.
edited 18th Oct '12 6:00:56 PM by MsCC93
Abiding by Chuck Jones' statements, Rooting for the Empire was the whole point, it was even Lampshaded in the Road Runner special. In Bah Humduck Wile E finally got Thrown A Bone, Daffy gave him a personal chef. In fact nearly every Looney Tunes Butt Monkey got thrown one in that special (par Sylvester and Yosemite Sam, who were ghosts). Elmer got a huge vacation, Marvin got to spend Xmas with his family and Daffy was finally beloved by someone. I think it's safe to say just about every FIM character that isn't a villain or a completely one note jerk is a Woobie at some point (and even those exceptions may vary).
edited 18th Oct '12 6:10:38 PM by Psi001
That poor shoe in Who Framed Roger Rabbit
My movie made $28 billion. Where's my share.
Welcome to Me@PSI 001 Yeah, Chuck Jones was at least kind to his butt monkeys....I mean although you feel sorry for his characters, at least they get thrown a bone once in a while, unlike recent cartoons who always Yank the Dog's Chain in a sadistic way. I guess his cartoons try to teach that sometimes, life isn't fair, but at the same time, you get rewarded for the pain you go through.
Welcome to Me@Theoriginalblader The Halloween special always ticked me off, since the kids were the walking definitions of "No Common Sense, " since Edd, as usual did nothing wrong, and Eddy (all he wanted to do was to go to Spookeyville) get beaten up for something that isn't their fault and ignore Ed, who beat them up =// Sometimes I think Ed's parents are either scared of Sarah or they favor her more than Ed, which is why she acts like a complete brat. It kind of ticks me off how Sarah along with Kevin get away with their jerkass behavior
edited 19th Oct '12 7:12:43 AM by MsCC93
I'll add Ed from Ed, Edd, n Eddy to my personal Woobie list, too. Maybe I'm taking jokes too seriously but I have for a while considered if the show was implying that Ed was being abused by his mother and neglected by his father. Why? Well, in the episode Ed had a nightmare about Jonny whose face was on his mother's body and he was terrified of actual Jonny in real life. I wondered if Ed was having some sort of nightmare based on real life fears and trauma. Like living in fear of his mother's scolding for every little thing because Sarah (who I think is the favorite, knows it, and abuses it) will tell on him. The fact that the episode was Jonny's nightmare doesn't dissuade me too much. The fact that he wore a bow in his hair as a baby. Was he wrong gender so they poured all of their efforts into indulging Sarah's whims who they clearly spoil rotten? Not to mention putting him in a prison in his own home when he was grounded and let Sarah play guard. (Removing his staircase? Really?) Then, there's Ed's father. Ed mentions him sitting on bum after work and taking no interest in his family's problems. So we have two forms of Abusive Parents. One overbearing and unfair and another apathetic. I'm sure I'm not the first fan to say all of this.
edited 19th Oct '12 3:18:16 PM by Kaizoku20
Sloving cases one by oneI actually remember a few episodes of Ed edd n eddy that showed hints from Ed that his father was on his side. Although, judging by how ed says it, Ed's dad is the hardworking man who has to work late for his family. Ed's mom sounds like she loves her daughter more than her son(since Sarah is just a spoiled brat with a major control freak problem). For other characters here's the list. Buttons- He literally gets beaten to the pulp for just trying to keep his eyes on that stupid headed mindy. And the mother always complains to buttons for his actions not her daughter's actions. Oswald The Lucky Rabbit- I know he had a video game appearance but for someone who has the name 'lucky' in him he's got a lot bad luck in him. He had to get alot out of him before he could have earned his happily ever after. Bushroot- A regular scientist who wanted to use plants for good. But in the end he ends up becoming one and that was mainly because the scientists who mocked him led him to what he is.
Artist, Writer, IgnoredWho do I feel sorry for? Adventure Time: Earl Lemongrab and Ice King. One is an Aspie whose worse off than me and I relate to his issues even if he is stupid, and the other who was a good and kind person driven mad and all the horrible things he's done are not his fault and somewhere deep under that terrible memory, Simon Petrikov is there. Ed Eddn Eddy: The Ed boys, but especially Double D who suffered greatly, usually for no reason at all. He was a smart kid and was delegated to be a loser with the other two because of his name. SpongeBob SquarePants: Squidward, that is all.
Toothy hatAnd Plankton, don't forget about Plankton.
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