Follow TV Tropes

Following

Girls und Panzer

Go To

Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
entropy13 わからない from Somewhere only we know. Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
わからない
#1727: Aug 14th 2014 at 3:45:32 AM

That poster was already used in a hospital last November 2013.

I'm reading this because it's interesting. I think. Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot, over.
MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#1728: Aug 14th 2014 at 9:59:59 AM

Some Gekkan Senshado stuff. Some guys managed to get a copy of the mag, and what they've found is being shared I think at 2ch and other fora. Anyway, some nice info:

  • It seems Anzio was actually the first school to build a schoolship in Japan, re-purposing a merchant vessel. Another point is that their current ship is a popular tourist attraction, which explains why students were able to make money running food stalls.
  • BC Freedom is a combined school of both BC and Freedom, when both schools have schoolships that are derelict and needed replacing. The government funding limits means the two schools were combined into one newer ship. But there was massive inter-school political fighting. The intentional was to have one super-school. But it was a massive failure and we ended up with the entire ship split in half, with the old Freedom school taking up Port side while the BC inhabit the Starboard side. This explains why their school emblem was confusing; it literally houses two factions!
  • So Maginot was a girls-school created to teach wine-making, specialising in traditional techniques including juicing the grapes with your feet. And the reason they used a submarine as their schoolship was because supposedly the water pressure speeds up wine maturation. Their tank doctrine is inflexible and rely on moving in groups. But their arts, film studies, and clothing design are highly creative. They also take their food very, very seriously.
  • Saint Glorianna is a very famous and privileged school, with Senshado a major part of the school's culture. A lot of the school's funds came from alumnae donations, but that means the graduates ended up influencing tank selection. Thus conservative tank selections despite their wealth. The school has very stringent selection process to even be enrolled. Students aim to become a part of the "Tea Garden", the building where the best of the best students in grades and behavior, and trusted by all, given soul names of teas, gather. After graduation the Tea Garden members join one of the three major factions of the alumnae organizations (can't read them, sorry.), and they run regular meetings to oversea how their school should be ran. Especially on how the next generation of Senshado leaders would be chosen. In short, they are posh as hell.

So there you go, answers on where the other schools get their funding outside of Senshado.

edited 14th Aug '14 10:01:18 AM by MyssaRei

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#1729: Aug 14th 2014 at 6:05:34 PM

More from Gekkan Senshado on the other schools

On Viking Fisheries:

They used a mix of tanks from other schools, including the silly Nb Fz. Recently they are discussing purchasing some M24 Chaffees.

School culturally focus on equality, hard work, and cleanliness. Strangely the school's students all don't like talking very much, other schools consider VF school students rather odd and borderline mute.

The students are crazy about precision, especially on the issue of time. They plan their battle plans literally down to the second, and they train their tank crews to extreme levels of proficiency. Their battle plans are nuts and goes into details on at the exact moment you were suppose to see your enemy, where on the enemy tank you are suppose to target down to the cm. But the problem is their plans simply fall apart in actual battles, and the tank crews don't know what to do when they can't follow their training anymore.

Preferred terrain is mountains and snow fields. At beach battles they prefer surprise attacking from the water, and they have tanks capable of moving across water for this purpose.

VF loves nature, and their school ship deck is covered in a huge forest. There is a huge section on their food choices, but I could only understand that they have salmon as their specialty. Also, the school doesn't charge the students any school fees.

On Bonple:

As for Bonple Girl's High School, Polish themed, the school is historically close to St Gloria and they have an active exchange program.

Their current tanks are all weak sauce peashooters. They have a strange selection of rare tanks including the 10TP, but no one knows how the hell they managed to get that one. Their current tactics are to use their mobility to attack their enemy, but their firepower is inadequate.

They actually have been in discussion with multiple schools in acquiring some tanks from them. But ironically the massive amount of choices means internal school factions cause breakdowns from negotiations. Especially the pro-St Gloria faction somehow managed to cause Black Forest to walk away from the deal. So they are still stuck with weak tanks just because they can't agree on what upgrades to purchase.

Culturally the students have trouble making up their minds on anything. But they are hard working, polite, and in fact have the best chances in the country of going into the top universities. They love egg dishes, is famed for their senshado music band, and have equestrians competing at the international level.

And more on Saunders:

They are part of a large group of private schools from kindergarten to university. The school was originally a land school ran by Americans, for Americans, back in the old days and had a long history (I guess Anzio was still the oldest because Saunders was not a Japanese school in the beginning.)

The American population was later moved elsewhere and the school became fully Japanese once they built their first schoolship. Saunder still does exchange programs every year with actual American schools.

Senshado is a big deal in Saunders, with not just money but also the biggest active number of functional tanks in the country. They have a very high quality group of engineer students maintaining the tanks. In general they have more than 50 M4 class tanks active at any one time. The engineer students are kept busy with modifications, and there are talks of Ez8 tread modifications and upgrade of chassis. They have so many vehicles, both tanks and support vehicles, that no one really knows how many they actually have.

There are 500 Senshado practitioners in Saunders, and several times that number of engineers. The other clubs actually aid the Senshado cause actively, in the sense that most of the school is technically part of the club unofficially.

Saunders tactics involve heavy fire-power and using mobility as defence. When fighting, the weak front tanks would slowly back away from the enemy and allow the heavier armoured main tanks to the rear to catch up and fight back. All the while the advancing enemy gets surrounded left and right and get into a crossfire.

Saunders tank commanders tend to be recruited from the Intelligence clubs. While the very best gunners get the big cannons in the slower tanks, focusing on killing enemies from long range.

Tragically the vehicle quota limits in official Senshado matches means Saunders tactics are much harder to pull off. So they have much harder time winning matches than you think.

Tactically they are treated as brutish and overwhelming enemies with numbers. St Gloria considers Sanders to be too barbaric.

So there you have it.

Parable State of Mind from California (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
State of Mind
#1730: Aug 14th 2014 at 6:22:55 PM

Senshado is a big deal in Saunders, with not just money but also the biggest active number of functional tanks in the country. They have a very high quality group of engineer students maintaining the tanks. In general they have more than 50 M4 class tanks active at any one time. The engineer students are kept busy with modifications, and there are talks of Ez8 tread modifications and upgrade of chassis.

It's as if Oorai's Tiger Team was an entire school.

They have so many vehicles, both tanks and support vehicles, that no one really knows how many they actually have.

They probably do the "Find the Tank in the Most Ridiculous Place" thing on a regular basis.

Saunders tactics involve heavy fire-power and using mobility as defence. When fighting, the weak front tanks would slowly back away from the enemy and allow the heavier armoured main tanks to the rear to catch up and fight back. All the while the advancing enemy gets surrounded left and right and get into a crossfire.

Well now we know where Katyusha got her battle strategy from.

Tactically they are treated as brutish and overwhelming enemies with numbers. St Gloria considers Sanders to be too barbaric.

Living up to your British style there, eh, St. Gloria? I wonder just how different Saunder's normal style is compared to what we saw when Arisa was managing everything. Sure they outnumbered Oorai, but so did everybody else, and by greater margins too. With the exception of the Firefly, did they even field any heavy hitting tanks?

"What a century this week has been." - Seung Min Kim
MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#1731: Aug 14th 2014 at 7:04:40 PM

What I do love about all this is that it confirms that each school has their own niche, and how they're doing their own thing outside of Sensha-do.

Edit: And Yoghurt, which is apparently a Bulgarian-themed school.

For the Yoghurt Academy, they are an agricultural school. Specialises in dairy products. They started off with weak peashooters, but recently has expanded their arsenal to the surprise of their opponents. The schoolship dedicate most of the space to farms and ranches, and there are talks of converting tractors into tanks and tanks into tractors.

School culture revolves around "simplicity, thrift, hard work, endurance."

For the size of the schoolship, it imports massive amounts of hotsprings water on a regular basis.

edited 14th Aug '14 10:37:14 PM by MyssaRei

KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#1732: Aug 15th 2014 at 12:13:53 AM

All right... I now confess myself really curious as to how the Australian themed school is described.

... I just can't remembered what they're called.

entropy13 わからない from Somewhere only we know. Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
わからない
#1733: Aug 15th 2014 at 12:18:39 AM

[up]The Upside-down Drunk Killer Kangaroos Academy.

I'm reading this because it's interesting. I think. Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot, over.
Jamibu Since: Jun, 2014
#1734: Aug 15th 2014 at 1:32:32 AM

[up][up] It's Koala Forest High School.

Speaking of which, the provider above missed some info about Koala Forest that was also translated so I post it here.

anon said:

Mostly that they are very tactically flxible and have a very relaxed near non-existent hierarchy. They currently use the M3 series of tanks but is in discussion in getting some M4s. Tactically they prefer the equivalent of cavalry charges, breaking up enemy formation. But if they are forced into a straight shootout they are surprisingly fragile. They prefer desert terrain, and are in good relation with Saunders. There is a whole section on food too. But I would need someone else to translate that.

edited 19th Mar '15 1:02:59 PM by Jamibu

Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
HGW XX/7
#1735: Aug 15th 2014 at 2:10:23 AM

Aw, why can't the Aussie school use the Sentinel? Maybe even the double-barreled prototype or the 17-pounder version?

Or the Matilda Hedgehog evil grin

EDIT: Brilliant work Myssa! Saunders is definitely the best school. M4 Sherman best tank of war. cool

edited 15th Aug '14 2:30:41 AM by Achaemenid

Schild und Schwert der Partei
SayuriUliana Since: Jul, 2012
#1736: Aug 15th 2014 at 9:41:16 AM

Should Koala Forest roll in as an ANZAC school and have Bob Semple Tanks as well?

Also, supposedly the article for Koala Forest makes mention of Vegemite...

Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
HGW XX/7
#1737: Aug 15th 2014 at 10:20:35 AM

Given the forward machine gunner of a Bob Semple tank manned his weapon by lying down on a flammable mattress placed over the engine block, which would be vibrating enough to cause physical injury and jam the tank's MGs, whilst the engine itself could not draw in air to cool itself, in a 12-foot tall top-heavy box (the Bob Semple tank is taller than a Maus!) that swayed dangerously on rough terrain, I suspect the Bob Semple "tank" would be banned by the Federation for making sensha-do even more dangerous than it already is.

Seriously, the Bob Semple was a danger to a crew of trained adults. It is, like Yorkie bars, not for girls.

Tanks I'd like to see: Any Swedish tank, any American TD, the Romanian Maresal prototype, the Kugelblitz flakpanzer concept, the IS-3, the T-44 or even the T-54 prototype, the Sturmtiger, and the M24 Light Tank.

edited 15th Aug '14 10:21:37 AM by Achaemenid

Schild und Schwert der Partei
KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#1738: Aug 15th 2014 at 4:22:30 PM

Aw, why can't the Aussie school use the Sentinel? Maybe even the double-barreled prototype or the 17-pounder version?

Agreed with the sentiment.

As for the Bob Semple... given that the damn thing was "armoured" with corrugated iron, I doubt that can even have the carbon fibre anti-spalling coating applied which prevents it from qualifying for authorised matches. Though Koala Forest might have one as a joke for newbies.

"Here, this is your tank." "What?!" "Nah,just kidding. You should have seen the look on your faces."

Also, my personal head canon is that their Sensha-do uniforms include Akubra hats.

Antiteilchen In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good. Since: Sep, 2013
In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good.
#1739: Aug 15th 2014 at 4:34:50 PM

"Bob Semple Tank..." O_o

That looks like something The A Team welded together.[lol]

Hermunster Fio is Best Commando from Over There Since: Jan, 2013
Fio is Best Commando
#1740: Aug 16th 2014 at 1:01:33 AM

[up]The entire Commonwealth was basically functioning like the A-Team in the first years of the war trying to come up with the means to stop their seemingly unstoppable enemies.

KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#1741: Aug 16th 2014 at 1:37:14 AM

[up] To be fair, when it came to smaller scale stuff we were fairly successful. And on the Australian side, the Sentinel at least looked like a proper tank.

Though I'm wondering if the reason they're dodging around the issue of the Sentinel is because it never saw combat and they're not sure how to portray it compared to other tanks. (Even the two Maus prototypes saw some limited combat).

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
V
#1742: Aug 16th 2014 at 1:50:27 AM

[up] And I guess finding information might be a little difficult; it is a fairly obscure tank, after all.

Keep Rolling On
entropy13 わからない from Somewhere only we know. Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
わからない
#1743: Aug 16th 2014 at 2:06:27 AM

The Sentinel is included in "Encyclopedia of Weapons of WWII" under the "British and French tanks" section, listed after the Churchill and before the Ram. It's like a big Covenanter/M3 Lee hybrid. LOL

I'm reading this because it's interesting. I think. Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot, over.
Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
HGW XX/7
#1744: Aug 16th 2014 at 10:38:28 AM

It's also in the Encyclopedia of British and American Tanks of WWII, Jane's WWII Tanks, and plenty of other perfectly documented sources. Depending on how much research Studio ACTAS can be bothered doing, I suspect that the Australian archives will be fairly easy to navigate.

(Even the two Maus prototypes saw some limited combat).

Every source I've seen states that they were destroyed by the Germans to prevent capture and saw no combat. The one at Kubinka is a combination of the intact turret of Maus V2 and the hull of Maus V1. The hull at Kubinka has been completely gutted, possibly by fire, although I don't know if this was the result of Soviet testing or if the hull was fired by the Germans and the Soviets simply towed an empty shell around for their own tests.

Also, several of the tanks shown in the anime didn't actually see any fighting or saw very limited action. The Maus is one, but there are others: Only one Porsche Tiger ever actually fought, as a command vehicle for a Ferdinand unit. No Chi-Nus ever fought in combat.

edited 16th Aug '14 12:52:37 PM by Achaemenid

Schild und Schwert der Partei
Diamite Rainy Echoes Since: Jul, 2013
Rainy Echoes
#1745: Aug 19th 2014 at 2:14:25 AM

Some more Love Love Sakusen musings...


Chapter 14:

  • The "Nonna Diary" debuts! ...Except Katyusha only added more juicy info to Nonna's "Katyusha Diary". Just as planned...evil grin

Chapter 15: Or should I say CHAPTER SAKI!!!waiiwaii

Chapter 15.5: Basically taking about the rapid increase in Oorai's popularity after they won the championships. ...As well as the show's success in real life. So blatant.wink


Chapter 16: Anzio Chapter

  • Traitors! Each and every one of ya! Y'all shouldn't be so subservient to your stomachs!tongue
  • They've invaded Oorai for the good food, and the cute chicks.
  • Ugh, Sooooo shoooouuuujooooo.tongue
  • ...What!? There's...no pasta!!?!? Their world...has ended...tongue
  • Leave it to Pepperoni to blow her own cover without nary a thought.tongue
  • PASTA ZOMBIES! And Momo died again.tongue
  • See, Anchovy? You had nothing to fear. But then again, when another opportunity comes a knocking for them...tongue
  • Capaccio wanted to wear your clothes, Caesar.tongue

Lately, the chapters are not in the yonkoma format.

edited 19th Aug '14 2:20:18 AM by Diamite

BlazingGuns Since: Aug, 2013
#1746: Aug 24th 2014 at 9:43:23 PM

Thread hop (Slightly offtopic as well.) but to the guy who mentioned spinoff of Girls und Panzer, why not Girls und Jaeger? (You know, the giant robots from Pacific Rim.) I keep getting Panzer confused with Jaeger anyways...which would actually make the problem worse if they do end up doing a crossover. What do you guys think?

edited 24th Aug '14 9:43:40 PM by BlazingGuns

Achaemenid HGW XX/7 from Ruschestraße 103, Haus 1 Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
HGW XX/7
#1747: Aug 25th 2014 at 1:35:43 AM

Girls und TOGs

Schild und Schwert der Partei
Antiteilchen In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good. Since: Sep, 2013
In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good.
#1748: Aug 25th 2014 at 6:35:20 AM

[up]Or Girls og tog?tonguenote 

I keep getting Panzer confused with Jaeger anyways
Must be extra confusing when you deal with Panzerjäger.evil grin

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#1749: Aug 25th 2014 at 7:20:09 AM

@Katyusha and Nonna with Cherno Alpha pic: Awesome. cool

@GuP mag info: So, as many have suspected, "Kay" and "Alisa" are more likely than not Japanese girls whose personality is influenced by her school's US-American culture, and might even be actually named "Kei" and "Arisa".

@New Operation "More Lovey-Dovey!" chapters:

  • Ch. 14: You got that one right. [lol] Plus, we need more grown-up Katyusha art
  • Ch. 15: .... Whaaaaat?! How can this happen in my shoujo mang— Oh, it's just another tankery club member mistaken for a guy due to her unisex uniform. Carry on, then.
  • Ch. 16: I suddenly have an urge to chant "Duce!" with the girls. Why can't Ooarai have their own signature battle-cry, too?

edited 25th Aug '14 8:41:31 AM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Parable State of Mind from California (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
State of Mind
#1750: Aug 25th 2014 at 11:26:23 AM

Why can't Ooarai have their own signature battle-cry, too?

Katyusha: Brave followers of Katyusha, charge!

Pravda: URA!

Darjeeling: Alright ladies, sally on!

St. Gloriana: TALLY HO!

Kay: Okay, girls, transform and roll out!

Saunders: YEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAWWWWWWWWW!

Maho: Panzer vor.

Kuromorimine: SEIG ZEON!

Miho: Panzer vor!

Oorai: ANG ANG ANG!

"What a century this week has been." - Seung Min Kim

Total posts: 2,225
Top