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Question: What kind of walls does WallAroundTheWorld cover?:
Does Wall Around the World mean:
edited 28th Sep '12 8:59:06 PM by BlueIceTea
No, the other one.Is there a significant difference in how the trope is played out between separating two places and separating one place from everything else? I don't think there is. I would call this a TRS matter, but if it's just about clarifying the description and not actually changing the definition, TRS isn't necessary. I'm not sure I'd count the Berlin Wall. People knew what was on the other side, and actively strived (occasionally succeeding) to get there. The trope seems more absolute than that.
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ZzzzzzzzzzNo on the Berlin Wall. That's The Great Wall. "The Great Wall is what happens when you try to get your enemies not only out of your city but of your county, state or country, resorting to the simple mechanism of building a wall that will (one hopes) keep them out. It's similar to The Wall Around The World, except here everyone knows what lies at the other side. "
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Oh, I didn't know there was a The Great Wall trope! Probably because it's not indexed and contains no examples... Seriously, nice idea, but it has two problems:
edited 29th Sep '12 8:20:38 PM by BlueIceTea
No, the other one.I don't think The Wall Around the World needs TRS. Clarify the description and it works. The Great Wall could use help from TRS, or (maybe better) a trip to YKTTW to gather examples. I don't see a problem with the trope itself, though.
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I do think there might be an issue with overlap, though, as illustrated by Blue Iced Tea's comments (The Wall, in particularly, genuinely seems like it could go either way).
To my mind, the clearest distinction to be drawn would be between a wall designed to shield a place from everything outside of it (where what's outside is generally unknown), and a wall designed to separate two places (where the main goal is to prevent interaction between different groups of people). The problem is that the Wall Around the World page currently has examples of both types. Here's how I would separate the examples. The Wall Around the World (a wall protecting a place from everything outside of it): The Great Wall (a wall keeping two places separate):
edited 30th Sep '12 9:19:57 PM by BlueIceTea
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