THE ULTIMATE RPG PROJECT:

THE ULTIMATE RPG PROJECT

• Current Year: 1987

• Next Year: 1988

• Members signed up: Steendy,Lemurian,Razgriz X,Tarsen,Danna45,Fokias The Jester,luckybreak 91,Viral Cyst, gameboy 2330

• Out of the project: Delvarian,Vanishing Reality

• The chatroom link is: http://www.chatzy.com/23872167867258

Greetings, fellow tropers! Those wondering what this is all about, I'll tell you: It is a quest to play every important and history-relevant RPG. For some time I've been thinking "I love Rpgs so much that it would be awesome to play all of them!" Silly me, i know. It's an almost nigh impossible task. So I settled for only series of games. That means no obscure commodore 64 stand-alone game that only 10 people in the world have heard about.

The objective is to show the world (Tvtropes, actually) how good these old games were and how important they are to today's rpgs. All these fantastic worlds that "these guys" created, they are real. They transport you to another realm of reality, another time and space, where the impossible is made possible, where dreams come true. (Got a little carried away there, sorry for the cheesy talk).

Together with 2 friends of mine, we'll carry on this little project, although they aren't hardcore enough to dwelve into the depths of early 80s cRPG (Suckers!). Those willing to play along with us are very welcome as this is one of this topic utmost goals. We encourage discussion, questions, hints, and whatever we need to make it a fun ride for us all.

• Some notes:

1. When I say RPG, I'm talking about the genre as a whole: JRPG and WRPG, be it action,turn-based or tactical.

2. All important Rpgs will be covered, from the dawn of computer gaming till today.

3. You're very welcome to play any games that we are playing at the moment and past games as well.

4. If one doesn't like a game, a certain type or style of rpg, already played the game or have no interest in it, one should feel free to skip it.

5. Also, one doesn't need to follow our order, it's just for the sake of convinience.

6. Japanese only games will also be included, even those without fan translation.

7. And for remakes, I'll leave that to your choice.

• Now, for the RULES:

1. THIS IS IMPORTANT: Please don't start flame wars between JRPG vs WRPG. If you don't like one of them, feel free to not play it. A healthy discussion about this topic, without any sides attacking each other, is allowed.

2. All important story related stuff should be hidden by a spoiler tag. Let's not spoil the fun of those that are behind.

3. Links for downloads won't be provided in this topic. Keep in mind that we believe in supporting commercially available games, be it in stores or digitally.

• LIST OF GAMES (1980-1990)

1. Akalabeth World Of Doom (1980) - The "prototype" of the Ultima series.

2. Ultima I (1981) - Father of cRPGs.

3. Wizardry Proving Grounds Of The Mad Overlord (1981) - Another one of the greats.

4. Ultima II The Revenge Of The Enchantress (1982)

5. Wizardry II The Knight Of Diamonds (1982)

6. Ultima III Exodus (1983)

7. Wizardry III Legacy Of Llylgamyn (1983)

8. Dragon Slayer (1984) - One of the first Nihon Falcom games. The series that later would become The Legend of Heroes.

9. The Bards Tale Tales Of The Unknown (1985) - This one completes the trio of important cRPG of early 80s.

10. Dragon Slayer II: Xanadu (1985)

11. Ultima IV Quest Of The Avatar (1985)

12. Dragon Quest I (1986)

13. The Bards Tale II The Destiny Knight (1986)

14. Dragon Slayer Jr Romancia (1986) - This is the third in the Dragon Slayer series.

15. Might And Magic The Secret Of The Inner Sanctum (1986)

16. Wizardry IV The Return Of Werdna (1986)

17. Digital Devil Story Megami Tensei (1987) - High expectations for this series, sorry I needed to add this comment.

18. Dragon Quest II (1987)

19. Dungeon Master (1987) - This one influenced many copycats.

20. Final Fantasy I (1987)

21. Dragon Slayer IV Drasle Family - Also known as Legacy of the Wizard.

22. Phantasy Star I (1987)

23. Ys I Ancient Ys Vanished (1987)

24. Dragon Slayer V Sorcerian (1988)

25. Dragon Quest III (1988)

26. Final Fantasy II (1988)

27. Ys II Ancient Ys Vanished The Final Chapter (1988)

28. Waste Land (1988) - The game that would later influence Fallout.

29. Bards Tale III The Thief Of Fate (1988)

30. Might And Magic II Gates To Another World (1988)

31. Ultima V Warriors Of Destiny (1988)

32. Wizardry V Heart Of The Maelstrom (1988)

33. Dragon Slayer The Legend Of Heroes (1989) - Start of the Legend of Heroes series

34. Makai Toshi SaGa (1989) - More commonly known as Final Fantasy Legend

36. Mother 1 (1989) - Awesome series

37. Phantasy Star II (1989)

38. Ys III Wanderers From Ys (1989)

39. Digital Devil Story Megami Tensei II (1990)

40. Dragon Quest IV (1990)

41. Final Fantasy III (1990)

42. Sa Ga 2 Hiho Densetsu (1990) - Final Fantasy Legend 2

43. Fire Emblem Akaneia The Dark Dragon And The Sword Of Light (1990)

44. Phantasy Star III Generations Of Doom (1990)

45. Ultima VI The False Prophet (1990)

• LIST OF GAMES (1991-1995)

46. Worlds Of Ultima: The Savage Empire(1991)

47. Wizardry VI Bane Of The Cosmic Forge (1991)

48. Final Fantasy IV (1991)

49. Seiken Densetsu Final Fantasy Adventure (1991) - Known as Final Fantasy Adventure in the west. The beginning of the Mana series.

50. Jiku No Hasha Sa Ga 3 Kanketsu Hen (1991) - Final Fantasy Legend 3

51. Metal Max (1991) - The first in the Metal Max series. Don't know much about it.

52. Shining in the Darkness (1991) - The first in the Shining series.

53. Super Robot Wars (1991)

54. Eye of the Beholder (1991)

55. Langrisser (1991) - Called Warsong on the USA

56. Super Robot Wars 2 (1991)

57. Eye Of The Beholder II The Legend Of Darkmoon (1991)

58. Ultima: Worlds of Adventure 2: Martian Dreams (1991)

59. Might And Magic III Isles Of Terra (1991)

60. Lord Monarch (1991) - Dragon Slayer VII

61. Dragon Quest V Hand Of The Heavenly Bride (1992)

62. Dragon Slayer The Legend Of Heroes II (1992)

63. E.V.O.: Search for Eden (1992) - This one is fun but it's a stand-alone game

64. Final Fantasy V (1992)

65. Fire Emblem Gaiden (1992)

66. Lunar: The Silver Star (1992)

67. Megami Tensei Gaiden Last Bible (1992)

68. Might And Magic IV Clouds Of Xeen (1992)

69. Phantasy Star Gaiden (1992)

70. Darklands (1992)

71. Romancing SaGa (1992)

72. Shin Megami Tensei (1992)

73. Shining Force The Legacy Of Great Intention (1992)

74. Shining Force Gaiden (1992)

75. Soul Blazer (1992) - It's part of a very disconnected series, followed by Illusion of Gaia and finally Terranigma.

76. Ultima Underworld The Stygian Abyss (1992)

77. Ultima VII The Black Gate (1992)

78. Wizardry VII Crusaders Of The Dark Savant (1992)

79. Super Robot Wars 3 (1993)

80. Breath of Fire (1993)

81. Illusion of Gaia (1993)

82. Lands Of Lore The Throne Of Chaos (1993)

83. Lufia & The Fortress of Doom (1993)

84. Might And Magic V Darkside Of Xeen (1993)

85. Megami Tensei Gaiden Last Bible II (1993)

86. Metal Max 2 (1993)

87. Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen (1993)

88. Phantasy Star IV The End Of The Millennium (1993)

89. Romancing SaGa 2 (1993)

90. Secret of Mana (1993)

91. Shining Force Gaiden II The Sword Of Hajya (1993)

92. Shining Force II Ancient Sealing (1993)

93. Ultima Underworld II Labyrinth Of Worlds (1993)

94. Ys IV Mask Of The Sun (1993)

95. Betrayal at Krondor (1993)

96. Eye Of The Beholder III Assault On Myth Drannor (1993)

97. Ultima VII Part Two Serpent Isle (1993)

98. Breath of Fire II (1994)

99. EarthBound (1994) - Mother 2

100. The Elder Scrolls: Arena (1994)

101. Final Fantasy VI (1994)

102. Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem (1994)

103. Langrisser II (1994)

104. The Legend Of Heroes II The Prophecy Of The Moonlight Witch (1994) - The Legend of Heroes III: White Witch in Japan.

105. Live A Live (1994) - This one should be included

106. Lunar: Eternal Blue (1994)

107. The Legend Of Xanadu (1994) - Dragon Slayer VIII

108. Majin Tensei (1994) - Part of the Megami Tensei series

109. Shin Megami Tensei II (1994)

110. Shining Force CD (1994)

111. System Shock (1994)

112. Ultima VIII Pagan (1994)

113. Super Robot Wars 4 (1995)

114. Another Bible (1995) - Megami Tensei series

115. Arc the Lad (1995)

116. Chrono Trigger (1995)

117. Dragon Quest VI (1995)

118. Dungeon Master II The Legend Of Skullkeep (1995)

119. Front Mission (1995)

120. Last Bible III (1995)

121. Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals (1995)

122. Lunar: Walking School (1995)

123. Majin Tensei II: Spiral Nemesis (1995)

124. Romancing SaGa 3 (1995)

125. Secret of Evermore (1995)

126. Seiken Densetsu 3 (1995)

127. Shin Megami Tensei Devil Summoner (1995)

128. Shining Force Gaiden Final Conflict (1995)

129. Suikoden (1995)

130. Tactics Ogre Let Us Cling Together (1995)

131. Tales of Phantasia (1995)

132. Terranigma (1995)

133. Ys V Kefin The Lost City Of Sand (1995)

134. The Legend Of Xanadu II (1995)

• LIST OF GAMES (1996-2000)

135. Arc The Lad II (1996)

136. Bahamut Lagoon (1996)

137. Fire Emblem Genealogy Of Holy War (1996)

138. Langrisser III (1996)

139. The Legend Of Heroes A Tear Of Vermillion (1996) - The Legend of Heroes IV : Akai Shizuku in Japan.

140. Ogre Battle March Of The Black Queen (1996)

141. Pokémon Red and Blue(1996)

142. Revelations Persona (1996)

143. Sakura Taisen (1996)

144. Shining the Holy Ark (1996)

145. Star Ocean Fantastic Space Odyssey (1996)

146. Super Mario RPG (1996)

147. Treasure Hunter G (1996)

148. Treasure Of The Rudras (1996)

149. Vandal Hearts (1996)

150. Wild ARMs (1996)

151. The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall (1996)

152. Atelier Marie The Alchemist Of Salburg (1997)

153. Breath of Fire III

154. Final Fantasy VII (1997)

155. Final Fantasy Tactics (1997)

156. Front Mission 2 (1997)

157. Grandia (1997)

158. Langrisser IV (1997)

159. Ronde (1997) - Megami Tensei series

160. Sa Ga Frontier (1997)

161. Shining Force III (1997)

162. Tales of Destiny (1997)

163. An Elder Scrolls Legend Battlespire (1997)

164. Diablo (1997)

165. Fallout (1997)

166. Lands Of Lore Guardians Of Destiny (1997)

167. Atelier Elie The Alchemist Of Salburg 2 (1998)

168. Brave Fencer Musashi (1998)

169. Black/Matrix (1998) - I found this one interesting, so I'm gonna put on the list.

170. Return to Krondor (1998)

171. Dragon Quest Monsters (1998)

172. Langrisser V The End Of Legend (1998)

173. Might And Magic VI The Mandate Of Heaven (1998)

174. Legend of Legaia (1998)

175. Pokémon Yellow (1998) - Same thing as before, you choose

176. Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure (1998) - This one is part of the Marl Kingdom series, which are connected to all Nippon Ichi games. Disgaea for example.

177. Sakura Taisen 2 Kimi Shinitamou Koto Nakare (1998)

178. The Elder Scrolls Adventures Redguard (1998)

179. Star Ocean: The Second Story (1998)

180. Baldur's Gate (1998)

181. Suikoden II (1998)

182. Thousand Arms (1998)

183. Fallout 2 (1998)

184. Vanguard Bandits (1998) - Epica Stella in the Japan

185. Xenogears (1998)

186. Arc The Lad III (1999)

187. Chrono Cross (1999)

188. Devil Summoner Soul Hackers (1999)

189. Final Fantasy VIII (1999)

190. Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 (1999)

191. Front Mission 3 (1999)

192. Growlanser (1999)

193. Koudelka (1999)

194. Legend of Mana (1999)

195. Ogre Battle 64 Person Of Lordly Caliber (1999)

196. Persona 2: Innocent Sin (1999)

197. Pokémon Gold and Silver (1999)

198. Sa Ga Frontier II (1999)

199. Super Robot Wars64 (1999)

200. Threads of Fate (1999)

201. Valkyrie Profile (1999)

202. Vandal Hearts II (1999)

203. Wild ARMs 2 (1999)

204. Lands Of Lore III (1999)

205. The Legend Of Heroes III Song Of The Ocean (1999) - The Legend of Heroes V: A Cagesong of the Ocean in Japan.

206. Might And Magic VII For Blood And Honor (1999)

207. Planescape: Torment (1999) - Oh boy

208. System Shock 2 (1999) - Forgot the first one, I'll add later

209. Ultima IX Ascension (1999)

210. Breath of Fire IV (2000)

211. Dark Cloud (2000)

212. Dragon Quest VII (2000)

213. Final Fantasy IX (2000)

214. Grandia II (2000)

215. Grandia Parallel Trippers (2000)

216. Paper Mario (2000)

217. Persona 2: Eternal Punishment (2000)

218. Pokémon Crystal (2000)

219. Skies of Arcadia (2000)

220. Summon Night (2000)

221. Super Robot Wars Alpha (2000)

222. Tales of Eternia (2000)

223. Vagrant Story (2000)

224. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn (2000)

225. Deus Ex (2000)

226. Diablo II (2000)

227. Might And Magic VIII Day Of The Destroyer (2000)

228. Vampire: The Masquerade – Redemption (2000)

229. Icewind Dale (2000)

• LIST OF GAMES (2001-2005)

230. Final Fantasy X (2001)

231. Atelier Lilie The Alchemist Of Salburg 3 (2001)

232. Dragon Quest Monsters 2 (2001)

233. Golden Sun (2001)

234. Growlanser II The Sense Of Justice (2001)

235. Growlanser III The Dual Darkness (2001)

236. Legaia 2 Duel Saga (2001)

237. Lufia: The Legend Returns (2001)

238. Sakura Taisen 3 Pariwa Moeteiruka (2001)

239. Shadow Hearts (2001)

240. Star Ocean Blue Sphere (2001)

241. Summon Night 2 (2001)

242. Super Robot Wars Advance (2001)

243. Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis (2001)

244. Super Robot Wars Alpha Gaiden (2001)

245. Wizardry Tale Of The Forsaken Land (2001)

246. Zone of the Enders: The Fist of Mars (2001)

247. Anachronox (2001)

248. Arcanum: Of Steamworks & Magick Obscura (2001)

249. Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel (2001)

250. Gothic (2001)

251. Wizardry VIII (2001)

252. Dothack Infection (2002)

253. Dothack Mutation (2002)

254. Dothack Outbreak (2002)

255. Arc The Lad Kijin Fukkatsu (2002)

256. Atelier Judie The Alchemist Of Gramnad (2002)

257. Black Matrix II (2002)

258. Black Matrix Zero (2002)

259. Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter (2002)

260. Dark Chronicle (2002) - Sequel to Dark Cloud

261. Demi Kids Book Of Ligh Andt Book Of Darkness (2002) - Megami Tensei series

262. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind (2002)

263. Fire Emblem Sword Of Seals (2002)

264. Golden Sun: The Lost Age (2002)

265. Grandia Xtreme (2002)

266. Kingdom Hearts (2002)

267. La Pucelle Tactics (2002) - Nippon Ichi

268. Lost Kingdoms (2002)

269. Lufia: The Ruins of Lore (2002)

270. Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire (2002)

271. Riviera: The Promised Land (2002)

272. Sakura Taisen 4 Koi Seyo Otome (2002)

273. Shining Soul (2002)

274. Suikoden III (2002)

275. Super Robot Wars Original Generation (2002)

276. Super Robot Wars R (2002)

277. Tales of Destiny 2 (2002)

278. Unlimited SaGa (2002)

279. Wild ARMs 3 (2002)

280. Xenosaga Episode I Der Wille Zur Macht (2002)

281. Dothack Quarantine (2002)

282. Super Robot Wars Alpha 2 (2002)

283. Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits (2002)

284. Dungeon Siege (2002)

285. Gothic II (2002)

286. Icewind Dale II (2002)

287. Might And Magic IX (2002)

288. Neverwinter Nights (2002)

289. Star Wars Knights Of The Old Republic (2002)

290. Atelier Violet The Alchemist Of Gramnad 2 (2003)

291. Baten Kaitos Eternal Wings And The Lost Ocean (2003)

292. Disgaea: Hour of Darkness (2003)

293. Dragon Quest Monsters Caravan Heart (2003)

294. Drakengard (2003)

295. Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles (2003)

296. Final Fantasy X-2 (2003)

297. Fire Emblem The Sword Of Flame (2003)

298. Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (2003)

299. Front Mission 4 (2003)

300. Growlanser IV Wayfarer Of Time (2003)

301. Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne (2003)

302. Shining Soul II (2003)

303. Star Ocean: Till the End of Time (2003)

304. Summon Night 3 (2003)

305. Summon Night: Swordcraft Story (2003)

306. Ys VI The Ark Of Napishtim (2003)

307. Super Robot Wars Destiny (2003)

308. Tales of Symphonia (2003)

309. Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (2003)

310. Shadow Hearts: Covenant (2004)

311. Shin Megami Tensei Digital Devil Saga (2004)

312. Shining Tears (2004)

313. Star Wars Knights Of The Old Republic II The Sith Lords (2004)

314. Stella Deus The Gate Of Eternity (2004)

315. Suikoden IV (2004)

316. Summon Night Swordcraft Story 2 (2004)

317. Super Robot Wars GC (2004)

318. Super Robot Wars MX (2004)

319. Tales of Rebirth (2004)

320. Xenosaga Episode II Jenseits Von Gut Und Bose (2004)

321. Arc The Lad End Of Darkness (2004)

322. Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana (2004)

323. The Bard's Tale (2004)

324. Dragon Quest VIII Journey Of The Cursed King (2004)

325. Fable (2004)

326. Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones (2004)

327. Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories (2004)

328. Monster Hunter (2004)

329. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (2004)

330. Phantom Brave (2004)

331. Pokémon Emerald (2004)

332. The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky (2004)

333. Dungeon Siege II (2005)

334. Dothack Fragment (2005)

335. Super Robot Wars Alpha 3(2005)

336. Atelier Iris 2: The Azoth of Destiny (2005)

337. Drakengard2 (2005)

338. Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (2005)

339. Front Mission 5 Scars Of The War (2005)

340. Grandia III (2005)

341. Jade Empire (2005)

342. Kingdom Hearts II (2005)

344. Makai Kingdom Chronicles Of The Sacred Tome (2005)

345. Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time (2005)

346. Metal Saga Sajin No Kusari (2005)

347. Musashi Samurai Legend (2005)

348. Radiata Stories (2005)

349. Shadow Hearts: From the New World (2005)

350. Shin Megami Tensei Digital Devil Saga 2 (2005)

351. Shining Force Neo (2005)

352. Suikoden Tactics (2005)

353. Summon Night Craft Sword Monogatari Hajimari No Ishi (2005)

354. Super Robot Taisen Original Generation 2 (2005)

355. Super Robot Wars Judgement (2005)

356. Tales of Legendia (2005)

357. Tales of the Abyss (2005)

358. Wild ARMs 4 (2005)

LIST OF GAMES (2006-2010)

359. Dot Hack Gu Rebirth (2006)

360. Dot Hack Gu Reminisce (2006)

361. Atelier Iris 3: Grand Phantasm (2006)

362. Baten Kaitos Origins (2006)

363. Gothic III

364. Disgaea 2: Cursed Memories (2006)

365. Dragon Quest Monsters Joker (2006)

366. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (2006)

367. Growlanser Heritage Of War (2006)

368. Jeanned Arc (2006)

369. MOTHER 3 (2006)

370. Monster Hunter 2 (2006)

371. Phantasy Star Universe (2006)

372. Pokémon Diamond and Pearl (2006)

373. Shin Megami Tensei Devil Summoner Raidou Kuzunoha Vs The Soulless Army (2006)

374. Shin Megami Tensei Persona 3

375. Suikoden V

376. Summon Night 4

377. Tales of the Tempest (2006)

378. Valkyrie Profile 2 Silmeria (2006)

379. Wild ARMs 5 (2006)

380. Xenosaga Episode III Alsosprach Zarathustra (2006)

381. Dark Messiah of Might and Magic (2006)

382. Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII (2007)

383. Eternal Sonata (2007)

384. Final Fantasy Tactics A 2 Grimoire Of The Rift (2007)

385. Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn (2007)

386. Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings (2007)

387. Growlanser VI Precarious World (2007)

388. Heroes of Mana (2007)

389. Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis (2007)

390. Folklore (2007)

391. Neverwinter Nights 2 (2007)

392. Hellgate: London (2007)

393. Luminous Arc (2007)

394. Mass Effect (2007)

395. Shining Force EXA (2007)

496. Shining Wind (2007)

397. Soul Nomad & the World Eaters (2007)

398. The Witcher (2007)

399. Summon Night Twin Age (2007)

400. Super Robot Wars Original Generation Gaiden (2007)

401. Super Robot Wars W (2007)

402. Tales of Innocence (2007)

403. Two Worlds (2007)

404. Wild ARMs XF (2007)

405. The World Ends with You (2007)

406. Devil Summoner Kuzunoha RaidōTai AbaddonŌ (2008)

407. Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice (2008)

408. Fable II (2008)

409. Fallout3 (2008)

410. Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a King (2008)

411. Luminous Arc 2 Will (2008)

412. Mana Khemia 2 (2008)

413. Phantasy Star Zero (2008)

414. Pokémon Platinum (2008)

415. Suikoden Tierkreis (2008)

416. Tales of Hearts (2008)

417. Tales of Symphonia: Knight of Ratatosk (2008)

418. Tales of Vesperia (2008)

419. Valkyria Chronicles (2008)

420. Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume (2008)

421. White Knight Chronicles (2008)

422. Dragon Quest IX Hoshizora No Mamoribito (2009)

423. Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers (2009)

424. Final Fantasy XIII (2009)

425. Monster Hunter Tri (2009)

426. Tales of Graces (2009)

427. Dragon Age: Origins (2009)

428. The Last Remnant (2009)

429. Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story

430. Fallout: New Vegas (2010)

431. Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep (2010)

432. Mass Effect 2 (2010)

433. Pokémon Black and White (2010)

434. Star Ocean The Last Hope International (2010)

435. Atelier Meruru: The Apprentice of Arland (2010)

436. Dragon Age 2 (2011)

437. Ni No Kuni Wrath Of The White Witch (2011)

438. Fable III (2011)

439. The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings (2011)

440. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (2011)

441. Two Worlds II (2011)

442. Disgaea 4 (2011)

443. Diablo III (2012)

444. Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning (2012)

445. Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 (2012)

446. Mass Effect 3 (2012)

447. Xenoblade Chronicles (2012)

448. The Last Story (2012)

ONTO ADVENTURE!

edited 28th Jan '13 11:32:43 AM by Steendy

No Pokémon? Considering it was the first portable JRPG to catch mainstream success, I am a little surprised to not see it on there.

Wait, why is this cutting off at '87?

edited 6th Sep '12 8:45:52 PM by EviIPaladin

I'm guessing the focus is on games that defined the cRPG 'over-genre' and most games past the 90s largely built on what came before?

To clarify some things: Pokemon came out in 1998 (USA) so we'll be playing that when we get to that era. This is a list to play ALL important RP Gs, from the 80s till today, in order. The list stopped on 1987 because we'll be spending some time on these. If you want, we can put the complete list from the start. What you think?

You should probably put up the complete list, else people will fill the topic pestering you about all the big titles from the 90s (Chrono Trigger, Baldurs Gate, Planescape Torment, FF III through IX...)

Sorry about that. In any case, would someone explain what a cRPG is? Computer Role Playing Game?

Exactly I'm making the list right now, it'll be done as soon as possible, maybe 2 hours. What you guys think? Anyone interested in playing through all rpg history?

I've been interested in playing those games for a while, but I have a heck of a backlog right now and will be busy for a few months with stuff, I'm still interested in getting around to this though.

Updated the list till 2005. This is just a "beta" list, it could change.

edited 7th Sep '12 7:15:01 PM by Steendy

I've only played ~5 of the games on that list. I've heard of maybe 20 of them.

Seriously, you actually have all of those game? And you've played them?

Oh wow you've really extended that list.

It might be best to format them as a series of lists, splitting them up in terms of the decades they were in.

Cause right now that list is really hard to read.

Also, it might be good to add Dark Lands (1992) to that list which is notable for being absolutely huge in terms of a sandbox crpg and also really complex.

edited 7th Sep '12 8:26:16 PM by ShadowScythe

Completely forgot about Dark Lands. I'll add that up later. Thanks!

The list really is kind hard to read right now. Sorry about that, I'm still organizing. Shadow Scythe, could you elaborate more please? I want this to be easy to get into

About having all the games, the answer is no. I have about 1/3 of them, especially the later titles. Some were released before i was even born, so it's kind hard to get nowadays. Especially old japan-only rpgs.

edited 7th Sep '12 8:49:20 PM by Steendy

Nostalgia only goes so far. I could never stomach the classic JRPG format. But considering the replayability of some of those games, I wonder how long it'll take you.

Some years, I guess. It's some kind of Super OCD thing. If I never played, say, Final Fantasy VII. I need to start from I and work my way up, even if they are not related at all. To see the evolution in graphics, music, storytelling, bestiary, battle system... Now imagine that up to eleven, extending to an entire GENRE. There you go, THE ULTIMATE RPG PROJECT is born.

CRPG addict should help you from the crpg side of things.

Something Awful has more elaborate descriptions of the more notable ones that most people talk about when they bring up crpgs.

Good luck trying to play every single game, I'll probably play scattered games from that list.

edited 7th Sep '12 9:21:37 PM by ShadowScythe

Do SRPGS like the Super Robot Wars Franchise count?

Yeah, I've read a lot of his blog. It's really interesting, I never got to play these games back in the day.

I'm organizing the list, it looks cleaner but makes the topic too big. oh well.

I hate to add even more to your workload but I'm pretty sure Final Fantasy Tactics Advance was prior to '05, coming before Crystal Chronicles. Not sure how big a deal it is but I only got into Fire Emblem from a friend who got me hooked on FFTA first.

I will definitely look into some of these and maybe even post some videos about my experiences, but will never manage all of these suckers. Arceusspeed, gentlemen (and ladies, if applicable).

edited 7th Sep '12 9:35:23 PM by EviIPaladin

You are right, my bad. Must have skipped. Thanks!

When anyone find some mistake or some game not listed, please post on the thread. Your help is much appreciated.

EDIT: I'm linking every game to its respective page, if it exists. Anyone knows how can I link the whole title? I'm also having trouble with redirects. I want to when you click in Akalabeth, to redirect you to the Ultima series page. Any ideas?

edited 8th Sep '12 11:50:28 AM by Steendy

You forgot the first two Dragon Quest Monsters games which came out before Caravan Heart. And Quest64. Being an RPG for the N64 should be notable enough for that one.

And since you mentioned Japan-only games with no English translation, I'm going to mention the Madou Monogatari series as well, even if the puzzle game that spun off from it ultimately became more notable than the main RPG series did.

EDIT:

Also, what about Roguelike games? I think only Akalabeth predates Rogue. Though I understand if they are too hard to consider for the project, with having to restart the game from the beginning if you die and all.

edited 8th Sep '12 1:24:14 PM by flygon250

First, about Rogue and Roguelikes: Although they contributed to the genre, I personally think they are too hard. I, myself, categorize them as... roguelikes. I don't think I'll be putting them on the list.

Forgot the first two Dragon Quest Monsters also, thanks!

Quest 64 is one of the only 64 rpgs, but it's so bad, in my opinion,that I don't know. What you think?

Finally, I'll take a look at Madou Monogatari. The wikipedia entry is so small that I don't even know what it is about.

edited 8th Sep '12 2:28:07 PM by Steendy

I never played Quest64 just bringing up in case you forgot it.

As for Madou Monogatari, try here. As I said, the puzzle game spin-off is more notable, and it probably shouldn't be your highest piority, but if you want to add anyway, go ahead and do so. The original games are dungeon crawlers, so will need grid paper if you want to get anywhere. The SNES gaiden game is translated, but it's quite basic and probably should only picked up if you like the novelty of not having any numbers or for the general cuteness of it.

Very cute indeed The later ones looks good, I'll read the article to get a general idea. btw, this site is awesome, their Ultima article is fantastic.

As for the project, is anyone interested in playing the majority of these games? We'll begin when we finished the list and have enough people.

edited 8th Sep '12 4:22:27 PM by Steendy

I just have to wonder how long this would take.

I mean, even playing for like 18 hours a day which is unhealthy as fuck, it would take, what? Five years? I'm terrible at estimates.

The project will accommodate people's time. It's not a race, so we should take our time. Something like 6 hours a day is good enough.

It'll take some years, I guess. however, It's not about the end, it's about the journey.