Shingeki no Kyojin/Attack on Titan (Manga Discussion):

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10851 sgamer822nd Jan 2018 11:58:29 AM from Meridian, ID
Or a Reiss, as the case may be.
Plus, remember how in Eragon everyone cries "a single tear"? Yeah, just try that with One Piece and see if it works
10852 HandsomeRob2nd Jan 2018 12:00:21 PM from Shining time station , Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
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It's either physical contact, or him eating one of them.

I mean, if he's willing to bear the wrath of Mikasa, Historia can just hold his hand while he calls out orders...or she can ride on Titan Eren's shoulder.
As a sentient train, I am morally against any kind of de-railing.
It is contact not devour... with a royal turned into a titan.
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10854 sgamer822nd Jan 2018 02:08:53 PM from Meridian, ID
A side note:

There's an Ask the Tropers post describing a largely spoiler tagged, wall of text entry for AOT on AntiVillain.Anime And Manga.

The AAT poster wanted some help as they don't know the series and thought I'd bring it up here. I can't go over it in detail myself right now. The information seems factual enough at first glance, but there's definitely room for trimming.

Edit: Nevermind, I was able to get it. Though a second set of eyes giving the new version a one over would be appreciated.

edited 3rd Jan '18 10:32:15 AM by sgamer82

Plus, remember how in Eragon everyone cries "a single tear"? Yeah, just try that with One Piece and see if it works
10855 Wispy2nd Jan 2018 04:41:25 PM , Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
[up][up]It's contact. Dina/The Smiling Titan was a Fritz and Historia is a Fritz. Eren would probably just need to hold her hand to control any of the Titans.
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10856 HandsomeRob2nd Jan 2018 05:03:43 PM from Shining time station , Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The freaky train with a face!
Ah. Ok.

Well, then just have to survive Mikasa and it's all good.tongue
As a sentient train, I am morally against any kind of de-railing.
Although Eren suspect it would only work if Historia became a titan as he has never been able to fully tapped into the founding titan except by contacting a titan that had royal blood.
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10858 KusaMigeru3rd Jan 2018 09:59:47 AM from AAAAAAAMAAAAAAZOOOOOOON , Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
In a way, yes. Whatever conclusion Eren reached didn't seem to be good. I mean, simply touching Historia as she is wouldn't compromise her too much, would it? That's why that initial translation ("I have to eat her or vice-versa in order to fully activate the Coordinate") made sense at first.

Well, in any case, we still got Zeke around and his life expectancy is already pretty low right now, so...
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10859 Wispy3rd Jan 2018 01:55:03 PM , Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
I am pretty sure Zeke is already thinking about turning against Marley and the rest of the world anyway as they likely are going to find some reason to kill the Eldians in the future.
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10860 harostar3rd Jan 2018 02:45:20 PM , Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Thinking back, Zeke was the one that basically set things in motion, wasn't he?

Resuming the Paradis Operation was his suggestion, when his superiors were ready to simply abandon Titans. He insisted they would need the Founder and the resources of Paradis to begin modernizing their military.

And he was the one that insisted on working with the Tyburs, and getting the War Hammer to join them. He was the one that got the War Hammer to come out of hiding after a century.

He was also the one that insisted they needed a "narrative" to illicit sympathy for Marley and their Eldian citizens.

He was also the one that insisted that Reiner go with Falco, without asking the reason.

Plus his "unfinished business" that he needs to deal with before he dies.

His absence this chapter has been really distinct, so I'm wondering how soon before we get a glimpse of Zeke's gameplan.
We have evidence that Eren touching Historia isn't enough because it only gave him his father's memories without any memories from the Fritz line.
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10862 sgamer823rd Jan 2018 04:07:39 PM from Meridian, ID
Maybe because she's illegitimate or doesn't actually have the Founding Titan herself.

Also, is the assumption at this point that the Reiss family after just the Fritzes? I was always under the impression the Fritz line was always a ruse, or is the assumption that the the line changed its name
Plus, remember how in Eragon everyone cries "a single tear"? Yeah, just try that with One Piece and see if it works
10863 TheAirman3rd Jan 2018 04:14:47 PM from Congratulations! , Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Considering that at the time he was suicidal and had no real idea what was going on, unlike when he punched Dina, and it seemed more like Rod was the ones directing what he saw, and also the fact that was only the third time he had used it ever (second being seeing Frieda's memory when he touched Historia, and that time nobody was trying to do anything); I'm going to say that is insufficient evidence to determine his ability to use the Coordinate while touching a human Fritz/Reiss.

[up] Well we know that Dina Fritz was legit royal family, and Zeke even without having the Coordinate gets hax powers because of it. So historically it's them, but at some point in the Walls they went into hiding, presumably after pulling a mindwipe.

edited 3rd Jan '18 4:19:10 PM by TheAirman

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10864 Lyendith3rd Jan 2018 04:51:17 PM from Bègles, France , Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
I remember that Isayama interview where he said that he found Eren too perfect and wanted to make him less hero-like… Welp, there you have it. >.> Interestingly, that last exchange with Mikasa makes it sound like the others weren't entirely on board with this plan…

The Warhammer is pretty cool, though I wish the girl having it was a bit more… introduced? If she was, I don't remember it.
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10865 harostar3rd Jan 2018 04:59:36 PM , Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
[up] I think in some ways it fits, since Isayama seems to be fond of having a significant character linger in the background. Bertolt and Ymir were in the background just kinda there, right up until their major time to shine. Similarly, Lady Tybur has been there the entire time and gotten focused on without it seeming like she was important.

It seems to be a common trick for the Eldians, at any rate. Have a figurehead that keeps attention focused on them, while the real power lingers at their side and seems unimportant.

Which is what happened with the Fritz/Reiss thing. Considering that they knew ahead of time Marley would come eventually, it's likely they picked some random folks to stand in as the Fritz family while they changed their names and went into hiding. With their ruse being aided by the nobility, who are non-Eldians controlling the government while the King stayed hidden. It's interesting, reflecting back on what we know about the ethnic cleansing that took place within the Walls and how the nobles turned out to not be Eldians. It seems like a bunch of non-Eldians went with the King, and then the ones that weren't part of his inner circle got slowly hunted down to cement the Big Lie and the nobility's control over the Walls.

edited 3rd Jan '18 5:03:54 PM by harostar

10866 Wispy4th Jan 2018 12:24:25 PM , Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
[up][up]Lady Tibur along with the very large guard she had in a lot of the shots to the point that a portion of people were already guessing that she was the actual Warhammer Titan and that Willy was just bait.

I personally found the reveal that she was the shifter was well done (with her standing alone next to the dead guard as Eren is killing the Marley army) and I love her Titan's design.
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[up][up] Kind of makes me wonder back to that cult who took a random homeless girl to pose as Ymir. Amusing coincidence of deception.
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10868 KusaMigeru4th Jan 2018 02:21:59 PM from AAAAAAAMAAAAAAZOOOOOOON , Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
To think them titanizing a cult for heresy / disturbing order would bite them in the ass years later: losing a Warrior, jeopardizing the other Warriors' plan and denying them the Coordinate, etc.
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Overly brutal, inhuman, oppressive regimes causing their own downfall?

Who could have predicted that?
10870 Lyendith4th Jan 2018 02:33:01 PM from Bègles, France , Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
It's really quite fascinating how every past event in the series was a cog in the chain of events that led to the current situation. I mean that's kinda how a plot works, but it all clicks really well here.
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Titanizing Dina Yaeger and letting her loose on the island only for her to run into Eren a second time where he first discovers the Coordinate Power is another amusing event.
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10872 KusaMigeru4th Jan 2018 03:28:44 PM from AAAAAAAMAAAAAAZOOOOOOON , Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
[up][up][up] Not really talking about downfall here; this requires bigger, direct events. Ymir, either unconsciously or with no intention of getting herself involved, still manages to throw a wrench into Marley's plans. That's different from a dictator dying or pissing enough people off to trigger a revolution.
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10873 sgamer824th Jan 2018 03:36:03 PM from Meridian, ID
[up][up] I've actually always thought that wasn't a coincidence. Dina's last words/thoughts were she'd find Grisha. So where does she go in that first attack? Grisha's house. The second time? Grisha's son. Something about Grisha/Grisha's scent, DNA, or whatever else, naturally attracts the Smiling Titan.
Plus, remember how in Eragon everyone cries "a single tear"? Yeah, just try that with One Piece and see if it works
10874 TheAirman4th Jan 2018 04:24:54 PM from Congratulations! , Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
[up]I'm thinking it's more along the lines of royal blood + P A T H S fuckery. We know that Zeke, even without the Coordinate, has abilities unique to him that previous Beast shifters lacked, and his royal lineage is the only explanation for that. Maybe Dina's vow to find Grisha overwrote Smiling Titan's prime directive from "eat everyone until you're a shifter" to "prioritize Jaeger (and eat everyone who gets in the way)", and then somehow was led to Grisha/Eren via P A T H S
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10875 harostar4th Jan 2018 04:41:12 PM , Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
[up] Agreed. We saw from the Wall Maria flashback that Dina-Titan completely ignored the Warriors and headed straight for the Yeager household. Because of her final thoughts/focus as a human, she kept pursuing the Yeagers at every opportunity.

Kind of like Connie's mother was able to greet him and that one Titan still showed reverence to "Ymir-sama". It was something they were fixated on as humans, that translated over into their Titan-locked mind.

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