A scenario I want to try: Mind reader vs Pre-cognitive.:

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26 PsychoFreaX1st Oct 2012 11:22:50 AM from Transcended Humanity
So... no more than one person is allowed to see the future? The instant a second precog is born, the first's power just goes zap? I'm confused about that part.

Anyway, keep in mind this isn't just two precogs. One adopted precognition via their own telepathy as an additional advantage. That can make all the difference.
27 shiro_okami1st Oct 2012 03:00:53 PM , Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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[up] No, they only cancel each other out only when they're near each other, probably. That's how it works in Dune. It maintains dramatic tension by having the normally Omniscient Hero lose his powers partially and temporarily by bringing another prescient being to his planet, first accidentally and then on purpose.
28 Matues1st Oct 2012 03:06:51 PM from eye on the horizon , Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu

A & B are both Precogs who are fighting.

A predicts B's first move and prepares to respond with a countermove.

B predicts A's countermove and prepares to alter his move to respond.

A predicts B's new move and..

Both of them would be so busy predicting and altering theoretical moves that neither of them move, because both are lost in a world of possibilities.

Eventually, one of them slips and the other wins.
29 PsychoFreaX1st Oct 2012 03:21:01 PM from Transcended Humanity
[up][up] Ehh... Whether or not it would add tension is a matter of opinion. But in this case, I don't think it's really necessary.

[up]Kind of covered!

Though I don't think my latest spark would apply. I mean, being able to read a future the precog sees would imply the telepath's power extends to at least two senses in the sensory memory.
30 TeChameleon2nd Oct 2012 01:05:24 PM from Alberta, Canada
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The Precog-fight thing was also done in Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn series. That was a fun read, since it was written from one of the precog's POV, heh...

Far as I remember, precognition in that series functioned with the future showing up as a sort of ghost-overlay on reality; when two precogs threw down, the ghost-overlays went utterly nuts, with thousands of images of both fighters spraying out all over the place as the future became fluid.

If you want to make it even more interesting, you could have had your precog have fought another precog in the past, and thus be absolutely baffled as this encounter is just as frustrating, but totally different.
31 m8e2nd Oct 2012 01:14:50 PM from Sweden , Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
I imagine that it would end up like a like game of chess.
32 PsychoFreaX2nd Oct 2012 05:38:18 PM from Transcended Humanity
[up] Exactly! I was planning to use that analogy if I had to make another reply. In fact, for anyone(even without powers), defeating a precog would be like checkmating the opponent's king. Try winning a game of chess on your very first move, go on. Second move? Maybe if you play as black and you're extremely manipulative/lucky. But the point is it's not about trying to instantly directly attack your enemy. You're trying to set up a scenario where there really is no way for your enemy to avoid the next attack even if they see it. Plan ahead.
33 HandsomeRob9th Jan 2013 09:47:13 PM from Cloud base , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
34 Jaqen10th Jan 2013 06:45:28 AM from gimbling in the wabe
Solved by Star Trek TNG poker: Geordie has Xray eyes and knows everyone's cards versus Troii's telepathy. Ryker always wins because smugness is the mightiest power.
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35 HandsomeRob10th Jan 2013 07:16:51 PM from Cloud base , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]

I thought Troi was only Empathic and not fully telepathic, though I do recall a few times when she could receive messages.
36 PsychoFreaX20th Jan 2013 02:45:38 AM from Transcended Humanity
Yeah this was a cool thread and actually inspired me a little. So have you officially used the precog vs mind reader idea in anything yet?
37 HandsomeRob20th Jan 2013 10:08:14 AM from Cloud base , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Not yet. It might be a long while.

Truthfully, right now it's just something hypothetical that I might do later.

And I can't even say when it will happen.
38 HandsomeRob17th Apr 2015 09:57:37 AM from Cloud base , Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
So, I know this is an old thread to bump up, but my recent foray into Xenoblade Chronicles (though I don't own the 3DS version that recently came out) gave me a look at how my idea would play out, or at least one interpretation:

(Starts at 1:20)

Of course, Shulk didn't know about their mind reading powers, or he wouldn't have had a disadvantage in the first place, but this seems to indicate that the Mind readers would have the edge in the long run.

edited 17th Apr '15 9:58:19 AM by HandsomeRob

39 DeMarquis17th Apr 2015 07:13:01 PM from Hell, USA , Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
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This was an interesting thread. Here's a question: The Mindreader can see what the Precog predicts, right? So he can see what he himself (the mindreader) is going to do in a few seconds. He can also see what the precog is going to do about it. So cant he just change his mind one split second before the Precog anticipates it? Effectively taking the precog by surprise?
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