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Racism, Sexism, Antisemitism and other things one can unwittingly be:

 401 Besserwisser, Sun, 9th Sep '12 9:12:40 AM from Planet of Hats
Yep, I kinda messed the ages up here. And the thing about diseases is just that the medical research seems really biased. If there are biological reasons why men live shorter (and I'm pretty sure there are) then measures should be taken to reduce that biological inequality. But I just see the opposite happening.

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 403 Gabrael, Sun, 9th Sep '12 3:35:38 PM Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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Thanks to the affordable health care act, everyone in America will be given one free annual exam a year (if it's not already covered-most insurance companies do have a wellness benefit) regardless of gender beginning in 2014.

I am curious to see how many men will make use of this since traditionally they haven't. I know most guys flip over getting their prostate checked, but they need to come to terms with that. I don't like how invasive my exams are but I hate cervical cancer, ruptured linings, and cysts more.

At least men don't need clamps or vices. *shudders*

edited 9th Sep '12 3:36:13 PM by Gabrael

 404 joeyjojo, Sun, 9th Sep '12 4:04:37 PM from The Magic Land Of Oz Relationship Status: Get out of here, STALKER
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It's not really about the money gabs, men have culturally often see check ups as a sigh of failling, so I can't see a simple price drop fixing things.

edited 9th Sep '12 4:05:41 PM by joeyjojo

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 405 Gabrael, Sun, 9th Sep '12 4:11:52 PM Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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I understand that. But now because it will be available, no one really has an excuse, hence why I said I wonder how many will take advantage of it.
 406 Black Humor, Sun, 9th Sep '12 7:34:05 PM from Zombie City
Women live longer mainly due to biological evolution more so than societal pressures. Women having to get annual exams is a better catch all for most of the problems we can have. Men aren't as willing to go to the doctor's.

I'm actually going to agree with Bess on this; men not being willing to go to the doctor (as much, on average) is a good explanation for why men don't live as long, but "evolution" isn't. There's not much good reason why men wouldn't live as long evolutionary, especially considering it's such a short margin.

Additional factors, I suspect, is that men are often more willing to take (E: physical) risks, including stupid risks, and just generally that men are encouraged to take care of their own safety less than women are.

edited 9th Sep '12 7:34:15 PM by BlackHumor

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A vanishingly small percentage of deaths are violent ones. There's no way that's what's making women live so much longer.
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 408 deathpigeon, Sun, 9th Sep '12 9:20:07 PM from Bread, It Is Bread that the Revolution Needs! Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
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[up][up] Actually, women have a tendency to live longer than men in many species, which is likely because a man only needs to live long enough to have sex to pass on his genes while a woman needs to live long enough to have sex and go through pregnancy.
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 409 Loni Jay, Sun, 9th Sep '12 9:25:07 PM from Australia Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Worrying about being healthy is seen as a 'feminine' thing in some cases, too. I mean, look that that ad for Dr Pepper or whatever it was - there's a perception that if you put 'diet' on something it becomes unmanly, so you have to call it stuff like 'Coke Zero' or 'Pepsi Max'.
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 410 Rocket Dude, Sun, 9th Sep '12 10:23:38 PM from AZ, United States
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A vanishingly small percentage of deaths are violent ones.

How many are accidents? How many are diseases that could be prevented by someone who was a bit more careful about his health?

Because last I heard, heart attack was one of the most common ways to die, and car accidents aren't that far down the list.
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 412 Besserwisser, Mon, 10th Sep '12 4:01:19 AM from Planet of Hats
Genetic diseases are far more commmon with men due to more genetic variance. And at least some of the life expectancy difference can be explained due to less research into male diseases.

 413 Gabrael, Mon, 10th Sep '12 12:08:43 PM Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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So the lack of scientific research into "male disease" is unwittingly sexist?

According to the CDC, this is the breakdown of leading death for men by race. http://www.cdc.gov/men/lcod/2007/index.htm

Here is another more recent account from the Mayo Clinic: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/mens-health/MC00013

Health Disease and Cancer are the leading killers of men across the board in the greatest percentages.

Can we move this to the Sexism and Men's Issue thread and reclaim this thread for it's own?
 414 Besserwisser, Mon, 10th Sep '12 12:21:24 PM from Planet of Hats
Health disease and cancer are also the leading reasons for deatht for women. The problem is that multiple times as much money is put into predominantly female diseases than male diseases. Some of the difference in life expectency can be attributed to choices, but then again so can the wage gap and we don't use measures to widen it even more.

 415 Morven, Mon, 10th Sep '12 4:13:33 PM from Seattle, WA, USA
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Yes, take this derail to the Men's Issues thread where it's on topic.
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 416 joeyjojo, Tue, 11th Sep '12 5:24:13 AM from The Magic Land Of Oz Relationship Status: Get out of here, STALKER
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Umm... Is there really much more to say? Apparently you can been be racist and not intened it. We all agree with that right? Apart from that all we are arguing about is who get the right to decide what is racist or not.
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