Racism, Sexism, Antisemitism and other things one can unwittingly be:

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401 Besserwisser9th Sep 2012 09:12:40 AM from Planet of Hats
Yep, I kinda messed the ages up here. And the thing about diseases is just that the medical research seems really biased. If there are biological reasons why men live shorter (and I'm pretty sure there are) then measures should be taken to reduce that biological inequality. But I just see the opposite happening.
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[up]You're assuming it's easily fixable. Not all medical stuff is. Just look at the huge, horrible headache that is cancer, for a start.
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403 Gabrael9th Sep 2012 03:35:38 PM from My musings , Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Thanks to the affordable health care act, everyone in America will be given one free annual exam a year (if it's not already covered-most insurance companies do have a wellness benefit) regardless of gender beginning in 2014.

I am curious to see how many men will make use of this since traditionally they haven't. I know most guys flip over getting their prostate checked, but they need to come to terms with that. I don't like how invasive my exams are but I hate cervical cancer, ruptured linings, and cysts more.

At least men don't need clamps or vices. *shudders*

edited 9th Sep '12 3:36:13 PM by Gabrael

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404 joeyjojo9th Sep 2012 04:04:37 PM from South Sydney: go the bunnies!
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It's not really about the money gabs, men have culturally often see check ups as a sigh of failling, so I can't see a simple price drop fixing things.

edited 9th Sep '12 4:05:41 PM by joeyjojo

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405 Gabrael9th Sep 2012 04:11:52 PM from My musings , Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
I understand that. But now because it will be available, no one really has an excuse, hence why I said I wonder how many will take advantage of it.
"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
Women live longer mainly due to biological evolution more so than societal pressures. Women having to get annual exams is a better catch all for most of the problems we can have. Men aren't as willing to go to the doctor's.

I'm actually going to agree with Bess on this; men not being willing to go to the doctor (as much, on average) is a good explanation for why men don't live as long, but "evolution" isn't. There's not much good reason why men wouldn't live as long evolutionary, especially considering it's such a short margin.

Additional factors, I suspect, is that men are often more willing to take (E: physical) risks, including stupid risks, and just generally that men are encouraged to take care of their own safety less than women are.

edited 9th Sep '12 7:34:15 PM by BlackHumor

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A vanishingly small percentage of deaths are violent ones. There's no way that's what's making women live so much longer.
Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.
408 deathpigeon9th Sep 2012 09:20:07 PM from Everything sacred is a tie, a fetter. , Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
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[up][up] Actually, women have a tendency to live longer than men in many species, which is likely because a man only needs to live long enough to have sex to pass on his genes while a woman needs to live long enough to have sex and go through pregnancy.
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409 LoniJay9th Sep 2012 09:25:07 PM from Australia , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Worrying about being healthy is seen as a 'feminine' thing in some cases, too. I mean, look that that ad for Dr Pepper or whatever it was - there's a perception that if you put 'diet' on something it becomes unmanly, so you have to call it stuff like 'Coke Zero' or 'Pepsi Max'.
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410 RocketDude9th Sep 2012 10:23:38 PM from AZ, United States
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On the other hand, we have Charles Barkley doing a Weight Watchers ad and imploring us to "lose like a man."
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A vanishingly small percentage of deaths are violent ones.

How many are accidents? How many are diseases that could be prevented by someone who was a bit more careful about his health?

Because last I heard, heart attack was one of the most common ways to die, and car accidents aren't that far down the list.
I'm convinced that our modern day analogues to ancient scholars are comedians. -0dd1
Genetic diseases are far more commmon with men due to more genetic variance. And at least some of the life expectancy difference can be explained due to less research into male diseases.
413 Gabrael10th Sep 2012 12:08:43 PM from My musings , Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
So the lack of scientific research into "male disease" is unwittingly sexist?

According to the CDC, this is the breakdown of leading death for men by race. http://www.cdc.gov/men/lcod/2007/index.htm

Here is another more recent account from the Mayo Clinic: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/mens-health/MC00013

Health Disease and Cancer are the leading killers of men across the board in the greatest percentages.

Can we move this to the Sexism and Men's Issue thread and reclaim this thread for it's own?
"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
Health disease and cancer are also the leading reasons for deatht for women. The problem is that multiple times as much money is put into predominantly female diseases than male diseases. Some of the difference in life expectency can be attributed to choices, but then again so can the wage gap and we don't use measures to widen it even more.
415 Morven10th Sep 2012 04:13:33 PM from Seattle, WA, USA
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Yes, take this derail to the Men's Issues thread where it's on topic.
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416 joeyjojo11th Sep 2012 05:24:13 AM from South Sydney: go the bunnies!
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Umm... Is there really much more to say? Apparently you can been be racist and not intened it. We all agree with that right? Apart from that all we are arguing about is who get the right to decide what is racist or not.
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417 TheHandle30th Aug 2015 02:54:28 AM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: It was only a kiss
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418 BlueNinja030th Aug 2015 04:16:11 AM from Living in Exile , Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
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[up] That sounds cool, and I'mma let you finish, but why did this need to necro a three-year-old thread instead of going somewhere like the Law Enforcement thread?
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419 TheHandle30th Aug 2015 05:51:11 AM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: It was only a kiss
Actually I meant to use the Race Relations thread, but somehow got mixed up. It's definitely off topic for this thread. But here's an on topic thing: I'm afraid I might be growing antisemitic, complete with Confirmation Bias.
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420 SaintDeltora6th Sep 2015 12:06:56 PM from The Land Of Racial And Cultural Mixture , Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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If you know you are letting confirmation bias cloud your judgment try to go out and look for as well as think on semite people you know were good and productive in their lives.
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421 TheHandle6th Sep 2015 01:02:41 PM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: It was only a kiss
The word does not refer to semite people in general, but to Jews specifically. Though come to think of it I know very few Arabs who aren't terribly flawed human beings. Ugh, my head hurts, how much can be blamed on culture and how much on individual fault?

In any case, it's mostly Zionism paranoia. Every time I see a Jew on the media, I wonder, "Is this Jew a Zionist? What did he do for the cause? What would he be willing to do?" Come to think of it, it's kind of like when I see a blue-eyes-blonde with a Dixie accent and wonder whether they're racist, or someone with a Brooklyn accent and wonder whether they're rude and mistrustful, or someone from Silicon Valley and wonder whether they're the kind of over-privileged smug asshole portrayed in Stuff White People Like, or someone from Paris and inwardly sigh in preparation for the automatic zinger tennis matches these people like to engage in.

It all amounts to, "is this one a good person" or "is this person actually evil beneath despite all the pleasant traits they may present at first glance"?

I suppose it's like a Red Scare. "Who's a Communist?" they would wonder, looking towards their best friends.

edited 6th Sep '15 1:05:34 PM by TheHandle

"You should always go to other people's funerals; otherwise, they won't come to yours." Yogi Berra.
422 shimaspawn6th Sep 2015 01:07:18 PM from Here and Now , Relationship Status: In your bunk
There was something of a dust up with one of the restaurants in my parent's town firing a waitress over her headscarf. She painted it as them portraying all muslims are evil. They on the other hand said they had set colours for all supplemental clothes for uniforms. They needed to be black, khaki or forest green. She kept wearing yellow or blue or other things that didn't match their policies.
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423 TheHandle6th Sep 2015 01:09:45 PM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: It was only a kiss
A stupid reason to fire someone (seriously, how many of those are there?!), but unless you catch them being more lenient towards someone else, no reason to expect foul play.

edited 6th Sep '15 1:10:03 PM by TheHandle

"You should always go to other people's funerals; otherwise, they won't come to yours." Yogi Berra.
424 Gabrael6th Sep 2015 03:52:13 PM from My musings , Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
If they wont follow the uniform, they are probably being a pain in other ways too.
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425 SaintDeltora7th Sep 2015 05:36:14 AM from The Land Of Racial And Cultural Mixture , Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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The problem with saying that most Arabs you met are terribly flawed human beings, is that that describes the overwhelming majority of humanity.

Humans of all cultures and times are generally extremely flawed. It's just that we tend to notice or tolerate some flaws moreso than others due to our perspectives on the whole thing.
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