Content Policy Discussion:
edited 16th Jan '13 8:28:11 AM by BestOf
- I removed the ALLCAPS, as there is no need for shouting.
- lolicon and shotacon have several meanings unrelated to out content policy and just invite misflaggings, so I removed them from the Q&A bit. It they do neverthless belong, readd them.
- I replaced any "p(a)edoshit" with "p(a)edopandering" as per the discussion earlier.
- Addergoole: page is pretty sparse (little more than a bare trope list), but does contain a lot of sex tropes.
- Defense: While there are sex tropes involved, the story itself is not pornographic & the sex is a small part of a very large story
- Batman In The Bowels Of Hell: Porn with bare threads of plot
- Bakemonogatari: Sexualization of several underage female characters.
- Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai: Maria and Kobato are very much underage.
- The Brown Bunny: Porn with Plot, but the only explicit scene is a blowjob scene.
- Cannibal Ferox, Cannibal Holocaust: Gorn that averts No Animals Were Harmed
- Cats N' Cameras: page says "NC-17 rated" and that it has "copious amounts of Fanservice."
- Defense: "but has more plot that sex. It's just that when sex happens they don't skip past it."
- Chester 5000 XYV: identified as erotic and explicitly sexual.
- Defense: "Erotic, but deep and focuses more on showing how relationships develop and love than just on sex. Might qualify is borderline erotica, but wouldn't count as porn."
- Chimneyspeak: Gory violence, nudity, non-explicit sex, page has links to artist's other NSFW (and much more porny) works. Child prostitution is referenced but not shown, and is a Berserk Button of one of the main protagonists.
- Proposal: Cut all direct links, lock page.
- Chintsubu: Described as "a manga about boys with talking penises", contains sexual humor involving possibly-underaged characters. The person submitting it does not know how explicit the manga actually is but still feels that it should be looked over. Context: Smutty gag comedy, characters are identified as second- and third-year high school (~16-18), but one is young-looking enough that the author feels the need to add a little "note: high school student" label during his first sex scene.
- Chugworth Academy: stub article, but calls it a "sexist comic" and alludes to "sexual exploits."
- Corruption Of Champions: Sex and fetish transformation game. The premise seems to involve rape a lot.
- Dumbledore's Army and the Year of Darkness: Rape as Drama twice
- Defense: As with many of these entries, the rape is not the main focus of the fic
- The iDOLM@STER: Several underaged characters depicted in sexualized fashion.
- Defense: No actual sex is shown
- IT: There's one particularly infamous scene where a bunch of underage kids have sex. The trope page mentions that they are so underage that it's highly unlikely that they could have even performed the sexual acts they're said to perform in the book.
- Defense: This appears to be another test case of sorts of what is going to pass by this council, as IT is very much a legitimate work in the Stephen King collection of horror novels.
- Legolas By Laura: Lolicon, according to the trope page (main character is 10).
- Defense(?): The most explicit this gets is "and then one of the Orcs striped her and then he raped her". Not erotic in any way.
- Lovemagic: described as an "adult webcomic" and "very NSFW"; apparently also contains Naughty Tentacles prominently in one section.
- The Mating Frenzy: Plotless porn.
- Neo Armageddon Evangelist Looks to be a porn fic centered around rape as a Deus Sex Machina, plus it seems some characters are under 16 when raped. Also has Naughty Tentacles involved. The recommendation for this fic was removed for the aforementioned reasons when the "no Lemon fics w/under-16 characters" was introduced.
- Seikon No Qwaser: Borderline hentai with Audience-Alienating Premise (namely, that magic powers in this universe are powered by sucking on womens' breasts).
- Defence: No sex at all, a heavily censored TV version is available that puts Censor Bars over any nudity and heavy on the plot.
- South Park: To be fair, it does need cleaning.
- Defense: A clean-up thread in Special Efforts is underway.
- Starfighter: page says "NSFW for graphic sex, but has a SFW filter page."— how do we handle these sorts of things?
edited 30th Aug '12 1:12:59 PM by LargoQuagmire
- Under the "is this endorsement" section, I cut out the lenghty description to just a reference to Greedy Jew, Mein Kampf and Adolf Hitler (Godwin's Law, ahoy!), since theys probably work just as well.
- The Wikipedia bullet was mostly wrong, so I just added the actual rules in.
- Authorial intent is not important, just the outcome. Trimmed down the section.
- I removed the "loli" bit since it's tangential to the topic.
- The first and eight Q&A can get into another folder ("The longer explanation")
- Q&A 3 can probably be just a link to 5P
- Q&A 4 is probably the most controversial: It's the core bit of the policy, and the because an adult having sex with an underage person is wrong in just about any society bit is walking on the edge of being both irrelevant and incorrect.
- Q&A 5 ("Exceptions") can go in the "asking for review" folder.
- Q&A 6 seems to be explaining semantics. I think it can safely be rolled into Q&A 4.
- Q&A 7: Someone else will have to decide here.
edited 30th Aug '12 1:43:24 PM by SeptimusHeap
edited 30th Aug '12 3:47:59 PM by LargoQuagmire
- Proof-check that I accurately reflected all passages (especially on my summary of the rules in the description and on the scanlation links thing).
- Add a folder concerning the history of the policy.
- Cut down on the now-useless elaboration in the FAQ section.
- Pick a name and launch the sandbox.
- Added the disclaimer on En. Wikipedia's occasional inaccuracy about manga demographics
- Deleted the line on the "ccoa test" as the criteria is listed elsewhere on the page in a better place
- Deleted "No pressure, lads :p" as it's a leftover from copypasting Bobby G's post
- Removed a stray asterisk, assumed it was a typo
- Changed "point 4" to "point 3 and 4"
- Fixed scattered punctuation errors and other typos
edited 30th Aug '12 5:32:21 PM by tdgoodrich1
edited 31st Aug '12 11:06:05 AM by SeptimusHeap
edited 31st Aug '12 12:26:47 PM by DoktorvonEurotrash
- The sections about minors and whether we want paedophiles are probably just trivia.
- Google Incident is explained in the policy history.
- I changed 14 to 12 in the "OK in culture X" section, since a) in fact, it's OK in a few countries and b) sexualization can also refer to fanservice, and that is often OK of 14-year olds.
- I have completely rewritten the Wikipedia entry, as it was painting the other wiki inaccurately in some places (understaffment and resulting issues exist there as well, for instance).
edited 1st Sep '12 8:54:10 AM by TwoGunAngel