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Duplicate Image: Mind Screw.Video Games get usage counts

 1 Alex Sora 89, Thu, 16th Aug '12 5:09:40 AM from Piedmont, Italy
Myself, as drawn by me.
Hi there folks, resident annoying troper Alex Sora 89 here.

This one is partially my fault, so here's the story.

Basically, I first added an image to the then-imageless Video Games article, taken from the opening of Pokémon Crystal. Then stuff happened, and after a rant of mine on the Ask The Tropers page, I got suspended. To recap the reason behind said fact:

->> Fighteer: "Alex, these constant conversations we have with you in Ask The Tropers are getting tedious. You insist on questioning and nitpicking every aspect of wiki policy, from bans on Darth Wiki links, to Natter, to YMMV, etc., and it's just driving us up the wall. I get the impression that you are somehow incapable of grasping nuance, or have a mental condition that forces you to obsess over this stuff. Then you keep getting your own natter deleted from wiki articles, like DarthWiki.Ruined FOREVER, and misusing problematic potholes like Unfortunate Implications. At this point I'm really not sure that this wiki is a match for whatever it is that you want to do with it. I want to give you a opportunity to recognize why we're taking this step with you, but I'm very disinclined to let you resume editing." (reference)

After getting my suspension lifted, I found out that a troper changed the page image for Video Games with the following edit reason: "ENTRY PIMP FOR MY FAVORITE SHMUP". As I explained in a PM I sent to said troper right after finding out about it, I wasn't pissed because of the page image change per se, but because that was the exact same behavior that got me suspended. For some reason, his answer, among other things, involved my ass (that, and somehow a Shameless Self-Promotion for his Youtube channel). Classy.

However, after a few months, I eventually found another imageless page where the former page image would find its new home: VideoGames, as the Pokémon Crystal opening counts as a Big Lipped Alligator Moment as well. After all the time that had passed, I've eventually grown to love the (admittedly kinda cool) pic from Hellsinker, but I didn't want the Crystal pic to get wasted like that. So I added the image, alongside a mini-rant as my edit reason. Shortly afterwards, I contacted ccoa about it and asked if my edit reason was too rude. Her response was:

->> "You can add a page image without going through Image Pickin', although it's encouraged that you do. However, the person who changed the image simply hadn't been caught. Don't take his lack of punishment as encouragement to do the same thing. I've reverted the edit he made and given him a warning."

Hence why we're here now. To recap the Wall of Text you've just gone through:
  • The page image for Video Games got changed.
  • The previous page image for said article was added to VideoGames.
  • The IP-thread-less page image change for Video Games got reverted, thus resulting in the duplicate image we're dealing with now.

Sorry for the long read. Let's see what we can do.

[EDIT: for the sake of context, the two current candidates for Video Games are as shown below.]

What do those Unown want from Suicune? It doesn't have a clue. Neither do we.

"Shoot first, ask questions later" won't get you very far here...

edited 16th Aug '12 5:46:24 AM by AlexSora89

I'm from Piedmont. No relation with Piedmon, mind you!
 2 Another Duck, Thu, 16th Aug '12 5:19:14 AM from Stockholm Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
I just don't see what the current image illustrates at all. I don't think it works on either page.
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 3 Alex Sora 89, Thu, 16th Aug '12 5:23:54 AM from Piedmont, Italy
Myself, as drawn by me.
[up] Yeah, I forgot about the context. Basically, the opening to Pokémon Crystal implies a connection between pogeys Suicune and Unown. Said opening does so in a very Mind Screw-y way and also has no relation to the plot, comes out of nowhere and is never referenced in the game's proper storyline.

Observe.

I hope that clarifies things a bit.

edited 16th Aug '12 5:27:57 AM by AlexSora89

I'm from Piedmont. No relation with Piedmon, mind you!
 4 burnpsy, Thu, 16th Aug '12 5:26:42 AM from Ontario, Canada Relationship Status: Abstaining
The Eternal Fool
Doesn't change how it's no good as an image.
 5 Alex Sora 89, Thu, 16th Aug '12 5:36:10 AM from Piedmont, Italy
Myself, as drawn by me.
[up] Fair enough then. At least, this time the new page image will be chosen the proper way.
I'm from Piedmont. No relation with Piedmon, mind you!
 6 Willbyr, Thu, 16th Aug '12 6:07:14 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Anime-ted
What is that second pic supposed to be? The text in it is completely illegible.

EDIT: Clarification - I see that it's a SHMUP screen, but nothing else makes sense.

edited 16th Aug '12 6:16:38 AM by Willbyr

 7 Alex Sora 89, Thu, 16th Aug '12 7:57:28 AM from Piedmont, Italy
Myself, as drawn by me.
[up] Yup. Then again, this is Mind Screw we're talking about. If the images overlap with Makes Just as Much Sense in Context, it'd be another matter entirely.
I'm from Piedmont. No relation with Piedmon, mind you!
 8 Willbyr, Thu, 16th Aug '12 8:10:41 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Anime-ted
Clarification - it's not that it doesn't make sense in a Mind Screwy way, it's that it doesn't make sense in a "no idea what all that crap on the screen is" way.
 9 Alex Sora 89, Thu, 16th Aug '12 12:07:57 PM from Piedmont, Italy
Myself, as drawn by me.
[up] Suggestions are welcome.
I'm from Piedmont. No relation with Piedmon, mind you!
 10 Another Duck, Thu, 16th Aug '12 12:15:53 PM from Stockholm Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
I'd say both pages should be blank until we find a workable image at all. As it is, it's a pull-quality image.
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serial tweaker, sorry
[up] I agree with the pull.

Unfortunately I have no suggestions. The only examples I can think of probably wouldn't make good page images (Assassin's Creed games, 999).
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 12 Willbyr, Thu, 16th Aug '12 12:26:56 PM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Anime-ted
+1 to pull...no way to hunt suggestions right now, and probably not at all tonight. The Western Animation page is the only one aside from the main that has a pic, and it's an in-universe pic. I'd be fine with this page not having one.

edited 16th Aug '12 12:27:56 PM by Willbyr

 13 Alex Sora 89, Thu, 16th Aug '12 12:39:19 PM from Piedmont, Italy
Myself, as drawn by me.
[up] About that one (sorry for the slightly off-topic post), I'm the one who came up with that, as well. It took me a while to make, but I'm glad it's still there and folks seem to like it. I'm serious.

Back on topic, a crowner should help if you ask me.
I'm from Piedmont. No relation with Piedmon, mind you!
 14 Septimus Heap, Thu, 16th Aug '12 12:43:46 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Both these images are bad. Pull 'em.

 15 Alex Sora 89, Thu, 16th Aug '12 1:34:31 PM from Piedmont, Italy
Myself, as drawn by me.
Jeez. Well, as I said before: suggestions are welcome! Further criteria as to which extent an image should or shouldn't be Mind Screw-y would help making the array of possible images a bit more narrow.
I'm from Piedmont. No relation with Piedmon, mind you!
 16 ccoa, Thu, 16th Aug '12 2:05:09 PM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
Halleluiah, it's raining Soras!, maybe? I felt pretty mind screwed by it.

edited 16th Aug '12 2:06:08 PM by ccoa

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 17 Septimus Heap, Thu, 16th Aug '12 2:08:16 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
That doesn't look very Mind Screw-y to me. People falling from sky isn't that unusual.

 18 Shadow Hog, Thu, 16th Aug '12 2:09:44 PM from Earth Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
Avatar by Neoriceisgood
[up] Does the fact all those people are the same person help any?

Although, it might not be all that clear from that particular grab. I can see three fairly clearly wearing a similar outfit, but those ones in the background are too indistinct... not sure what can be done about that.

edited 16th Aug '12 2:10:35 PM by ShadowHog

Moon
 19 Septimus Heap, Thu, 16th Aug '12 2:12:33 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
No, because a) clones are common tech in fiction and b) I have no clue of the game.

 20 ccoa, Thu, 16th Aug '12 2:15:51 PM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
..."Clones" falling from the sky like rain isn't unusual. O.o What kind of fiction do you read?
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
 21 Another Duck, Thu, 16th Aug '12 2:18:41 PM from Stockholm Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
It's not unusual for a dream... Then again dreams often tend to fall under Mind Screw if you actually try to understand them...

edited 16th Aug '12 2:18:53 PM by AnotherDuck

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 22 Willbyr, Thu, 16th Aug '12 3:48:01 PM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Anime-ted
There was a Cracked article that I saw a week or two ago about insane video games out of Japan...maybe we can get something from that.

EDIT: Some options:

edited 16th Aug '12 3:54:00 PM by Willbyr

serial tweaker, sorry
[up] I was just going to suggest LSD, but Eastern Mind is probably more screwy.

edited 16th Aug '12 4:17:26 PM by bananasloth

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 24 Alex Sora 89, Thu, 16th Aug '12 5:03:39 PM from Piedmont, Italy
Myself, as drawn by me.
@ ccoa: thanks for chiming in and for your very good suggestion!

@ Everyone else: wait a minute, so my suggestions aren't valid because they're too mind screwy while ccoa's isn't because it's not mind screwy enough? I'm... puzzled... we should make up our minds. As I said before, an image needs to be a Mind Screw, which is, you know, the point behind this entire thread. The falling Soras are awesome to me (although pretty much anything from Kingdom Hearts 3D is Mind Screw material if you ask me, especially endgame stuff), but then again, any kind of weird-even-in-context stuff works fine, so it's anyone's game.

Still, the KH suggestion gave me an even better idea: Snarl Of Memories. Just... two screenshots from it in the right order should suffice, really. Calling it right now.

[EDIT: alternatively... we suggest LSD without even mentioning Yume Nikki? Seriously?!]

edited 16th Aug '12 5:05:03 PM by AlexSora89

I'm from Piedmont. No relation with Piedmon, mind you!
 25 burnpsy, Thu, 16th Aug '12 6:18:38 PM from Ontario, Canada Relationship Status: Abstaining
The Eternal Fool
wait a minute, so my suggestions aren't valid because they're too mind screwy while ccoa's isn't because it's not mind screwy enough?

No, your image simply doesn't invoke a Mind Screw from just the image itself.

(Or, dare I say, even in context.)
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