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 26 Native Jovian, Tue, 28th May '13 9:20:13 PM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
I'd say not so much. Wanting to be normal ("I wish I didn't have superpowers! I hate having them!") is very different from wanting to appear normal ("I hope no one discovers that I have superpowers. I really like having them, but everyone knowing about them would make things weird.")
Would anyone who hated having superpowers NOT disguise the fact that they have superpowers?

I'm not suggesting a parent/child relationship, but a previous post mentioned Hellboy getting his horns sawn off to look more normal. It doesn't sound like Hellboy WANTS to be abnormal.
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Well, some people CAN'T disguise the fact they have superpowers, either because of Power Incontinence or some telltale sign they can't hide (for example, if you're the Thing, you can't exactly do much to make yourself look more normal). And I'm sure there are some people on I Just Want to Be Normal who don't want superpowers but don't do anything to hide them, perhaps because it never occurs to them, or perhaps they hate the experience of having superpowers but like the celebrity or don't care what other people think.

edited 29th May '13 10:52:54 AM by MorganWick

You're talking past me. I don't understand how what you're saying relates to what I'm saying. I read your posts and it looks like you're trying to convince me that the two tropes aren't the same.
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Piffy
[up]Because they AREN'T the same. Wanting to be rid of your powers altogether is not necessarily the same as simply wanting to hide them from other people. You can want to hide your powers without wanting to be rid of them.

edited 29th May '13 1:07:39 PM by Pig_catapult

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 31 Larkmarn, Wed, 29th May '13 1:13:17 PM Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
[up]Plus, there are examples of people who wish they didn't have powers, but don't necessarily hide them. Those that believe in Comes Great Responsibility, for example. They may not want said responsibility, but they still feel the need to face it.

They're related, sure, but not the same.

I'm pretty sure crazysamaritan wasn't arguing that they were the same, only related. He asked whether anyone who hated having superpowers wouldn't hide them, and I gave examples of situations where that would be the case.

Piffy
[up]Oh! Okay. My bad.
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 34 Septimus Heap, Sat, 8th Jun '13 2:04:47 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Bumping this. The top two options are pretty close.

My problem was that I don't see Morgan Wick's arguments applying to what I am saying. They are good arguments for the distinction between tropes, but not for being unrelated. (My opinion. Morgan would naturally disagree.)

I feel the Thing is an excellent example of this trope, wearing a Coat, Hat, Mask (without the mask), to disguise himself, even if they don't do much to disguise him.

edited 8th Jun '13 10:10:06 AM by crazysamaritan

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I wasn't necessarily arguing against them being related, only against one specific part of your statement.

That could explain why I felt you were talking past me. Instead of going off on a tangent, I'm sticking with my core argument. I'm using small details to show the argument, rather than replace it with another argument.
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  • Hide your otherness = 14:9
  • Abnormality Concealment = 14:9
  • Normalcy Disguise = 12:8

The rest are negative. No consensus yet.
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 39 Septimus Heap, Mon, 17th Jun '13 8:50:03 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Vote count, only options in the green so far:

This seems a case for a runoff crowner.

  • Abnormality Concealment -16:9
  • Hide Your Otherness - 14:11
  • Normalcy Disguise - 11:9

No supermajority, but very close for AC

edited 28th Jun '13 9:46:40 AM by crazysamaritan

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 41 Septimus Heap, Tue, 9th Jul '13 4:54:12 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
The numbers haven't changed since the last post. Runoff crowner?

 42 Willbyr, Thu, 1st Aug '13 6:10:48 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
With Mod Hat On
Runoff crowner's hooked.
 43 Septimus Heap, Thu, 22nd Aug '13 12:36:16 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Votes bump. Abnormality Concealment is the only one in green, but only 3-1 votes.

 44 Septimus Heap, Sun, 22nd Sep '13 2:06:02 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Another votes bump:

All else is red.

 45 Willbyr, Fri, 25th Oct '13 10:22:48 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
With Mod Hat On
The old runoff crowner stalled out at practically a dead heat between two options and one in the red, so I've set up a new runoff with the two options that were in the green. Please avoid downvoting an option unless you are strongly against it.
 46 Septimus Heap, Mon, 25th Nov '13 5:55:39 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Votes bump; Hide Your Otherness is the only one in green with 6-0 votes.

 47 Septimus Heap, Sun, 29th Dec '13 1:09:06 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Another votes bump. Only 3 more votes. Not sure if we should continue this.

I think we have a winner.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
 49 Septimus Heap, Thu, 9th Jan '14 12:00:00 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
11 votes is kind of little.

 50 Septimus Heap, Sun, 9th Feb '14 12:58:31 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
Another votes bump. Still same standing as before.

Alternative Titles: Masquerade Maintenance Runoff Part 2
25th Oct '13 10:20:38 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.
At issue:
New runoff crowner. Please avoid downvoting an option unless you are strongly against it.
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