Rename: Masquerade Maintenance get usage counts
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26 NativeJovian28th May 2013 09:20:13 PM from Orlando, Florida
Io vs Jupiter
I'd say not so much. Wanting to be normal ("I wish I didn't have superpowers! I hate having them!") is very different from wanting to appear normal ("I hope no one discovers that I have superpowers. I really like having them, but everyone knowing about them would make things weird.")
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Would anyone who hated having superpowers NOT disguise the fact that they have superpowers?

I'm not suggesting a parent/child relationship, but a previous post mentioned Hellboy getting his horns sawn off to look more normal. It doesn't sound like Hellboy WANTS to be abnormal.
Well, some people CAN'T disguise the fact they have superpowers, either because of Power Incontinence or some telltale sign they can't hide (for example, if you're the Thing, you can't exactly do much to make yourself look more normal). And I'm sure there are some people on I Just Want to Be Normal who don't want superpowers but don't do anything to hide them, perhaps because it never occurs to them, or perhaps they hate the experience of having superpowers but like the celebrity or don't care what other people think.

edited 29th May '13 10:52:54 AM by MorganWick

Could we just... not have Death anymore?
You're talking past me. I don't understand how what you're saying relates to what I'm saying. I read your posts and it looks like you're trying to convince me that the two tropes aren't the same.
30 Pig_catapult29th May 2013 01:06:59 PM , Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Piffy
[up]Because they AREN'T the same. Wanting to be rid of your powers altogether is not necessarily the same as simply wanting to hide them from other people. You can want to hide your powers without wanting to be rid of them.

edited 29th May '13 1:07:39 PM by Pig_catapult

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31 Larkmarn29th May 2013 01:13:17 PM , Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
[up]Plus, there are examples of people who wish they didn't have powers, but don't necessarily hide them. Those that believe in Comes Great Responsibility, for example. They may not want said responsibility, but they still feel the need to face it.

They're related, sure, but not the same.
I'm pretty sure crazysamaritan wasn't arguing that they were the same, only related. He asked whether anyone who hated having superpowers wouldn't hide them, and I gave examples of situations where that would be the case.
33 Pig_catapult29th May 2013 11:51:59 PM , Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Piffy
[up]Oh! Okay. My bad.
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34 SeptimusHeap8th Jun 2013 02:04:47 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Bumping this. The top two options are pretty close.
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
My problem was that I don't see Morgan Wick's arguments applying to what I am saying. They are good arguments for the distinction between tropes, but not for being unrelated. (My opinion. Morgan would naturally disagree.)

I feel the Thing is an excellent example of this trope, wearing a Coat, Hat, Mask (without the mask), to disguise himself, even if they don't do much to disguise him.

edited 8th Jun '13 10:10:06 AM by crazysamaritan

I wasn't necessarily arguing against them being related, only against one specific part of your statement.
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
That could explain why I felt you were talking past me. Instead of going off on a tangent, I'm sticking with my core argument. I'm using small details to show the argument, rather than replace it with another argument.
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
  • Hide your otherness = 14:9
  • Abnormality Concealment = 14:9
  • Normalcy Disguise = 12:8

The rest are negative. No consensus yet.
39 SeptimusHeap17th Jun 2013 08:50:03 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Vote count, only options in the green so far:

This seems a case for a runoff crowner.

Could we just... not have Death anymore?
  • Abnormality Concealment -16:9
  • Hide Your Otherness - 14:11
  • Normalcy Disguise - 11:9

No supermajority, but very close for AC

edited 28th Jun '13 9:46:40 AM by crazysamaritan

41 SeptimusHeap9th Jul 2013 04:54:12 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
The numbers haven't changed since the last post. Runoff crowner?
42 Willbyr1st Aug 2013 06:10:48 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
With Mod Hat On
Runoff crowner's hooked.
43 SeptimusHeap22nd Aug 2013 12:36:16 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Votes bump. Abnormality Concealment is the only one in green, but only 3-1 votes.
44 SeptimusHeap22nd Sep 2013 02:06:02 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another votes bump:

All else is red.
45 Willbyr25th Oct 2013 10:22:48 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
With Mod Hat On
The old runoff crowner stalled out at practically a dead heat between two options and one in the red, so I've set up a new runoff with the two options that were in the green. Please avoid downvoting an option unless you are strongly against it.
46 SeptimusHeap25th Nov 2013 05:55:39 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Votes bump; Hide Your Otherness is the only one in green with 6-0 votes.
47 SeptimusHeap29th Dec 2013 01:09:06 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another votes bump. Only 3 more votes. Not sure if we should continue this.
I think we have a winner.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
49 SeptimusHeap9th Jan 2014 12:00:00 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
11 votes is kind of little.
50 SeptimusHeap9th Feb 2014 12:58:31 AM from Zurich, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Another votes bump. Still same standing as before.

Alternative Titles: Masquerade Maintenance Runoff Part 2
25th Oct '13 10:20:38 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.
At issue:
New runoff crowner. Please avoid downvoting an option unless you are strongly against it.

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