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Misused: Ascended Meme get usage counts

 26 Blue Guy, Mon, 12th Nov '12 7:59:12 PM from Bella Vista, Arkansas Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
zzz...
[up] I'll get it tomorrow.

EDIT: Here it is!

edited 14th Nov '12 4:18:49 PM by BlueGuy

 27 Blue Guy, Thu, 22nd Nov '12 11:12:38 AM from Bella Vista, Arkansas Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
zzz...
Alright, now I've launched it under Meme Acknowledgment. Anything else?

Personally, I'd like to rename this trope Canonized Meme.
 28 Waxing Name, Thu, 22nd Nov '12 2:56:27 PM from The floor of the 54 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Don't let it die
[up]That's not a good name considering that many of the memes originated from canon material. And its name would conflict with Ascended Fanon.
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 29 Blue Guy, Thu, 22nd Nov '12 7:17:02 PM from Bella Vista, Arkansas Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
zzz...
[up] Hmm... you're right. I can't really think of anything else. Any other suggestions?
 30 lu 127, Fri, 28th Dec '12 4:29:48 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Clock is set.
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 31 Noaqiyeum, Fri, 28th Dec '12 5:04:21 PM from out of the night from pole to pole Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
Formalised Meme, Officialised Meme... the current name...
We dance around in a ring and suppose,
But the Secret sits in the middle and knows.
- Robert Frost
 32 Blue Guy Mobile, Sat, 29th Dec '12 2:45:56 PM from Wherever this phone is
On-the-go troper
Perhaps Meme Made Official or Meme Made Canon?
Typing on a phone is a pain.
 33 Septimus Heap, Sat, 29th Dec '12 2:54:40 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
So do we want to rename this? I am not sure we need this.

 34 Noaqiyeum, Sat, 29th Dec '12 4:49:38 PM from out of the night from pole to pole Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
Well, me neither. The point about similarity to Ascended Fanon was good.
We dance around in a ring and suppose,
But the Secret sits in the middle and knows.
- Robert Frost
 35 Ookamikun, Sat, 29th Dec '12 5:56:11 PM from the lupine den
Wolves, wolves, wolves!
What is the issue at hand then? I thought it's just solidifying the trope description and examples?
Lone wolf? Hah! "Lone" wolves die out of hunger and loneliness. The wolf needs the pack, and the pack needs the wolf.
There is misuse, the biggest one being that it is treated as a generic "memetic shout out" and another, more internal to this discussion, about the degree it needs to be referenced to count ie a convention presentation. Some believe it is the result of a bad name and needs to be renamed. There hasn't been a crowner to gauge opinion, basically it would be for either rename, clarify the definition or clean up (if they are even then we do them all).

edited 30th Dec '12 2:16:26 AM by KJMackley

 37 Alex Sora 89, Thu, 3rd Jan '13 9:01:04 AM from Piedmont, Italy
Myself, as drawn by me.
As with any "misuse" on the site, I find myself having a hard time seeing any actual misuse at all ("titular", we hardly knew ye). A simple cleanup should wipe these supposed cases of misuse off the site. As far as I know:
* Ascended Meme: a trope about a work either referencing one of the memes about said work, or even promoting it as one of its elements.

And I have yet to see an example that doesn't match this definition.

But, as some troper's forum signature wisely says, "I'm on the Internet; my arguments are invalid", so feel free to tell me I'm wrong (and, most importantly, why I'm wrong).
I'm from Piedmont. No relation with Piedmon, mind you!
 38 Noaqiyeum, Thu, 3rd Jan '13 9:52:34 AM from out of the night from pole to pole Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
There are a number of examples that involve the creators of works expressing awareness of the memes that have sprung up around their works, outside of those works. (Referring to it in interviews, &c.)
We dance around in a ring and suppose,
But the Secret sits in the middle and knows.
- Robert Frost
Check out the Ascended Meme examples on The Office (US) page. I was close to removing them but decided not just to use it as an example.

 40 Ookamikun, Mon, 7th Jan '13 4:55:42 AM from the lupine den
Wolves, wolves, wolves!
[up][up][up]I already stated some examples - out of my head: a voice actor doing a voice work in a con of a particularly memetic phrase (see: Garland knocking people down) is NOT an example of the trope, as well as the "I'm Batman!" one.

edited 7th Jan '13 4:56:58 AM by Ookamikun

Lone wolf? Hah! "Lone" wolves die out of hunger and loneliness. The wolf needs the pack, and the pack needs the wolf.
 41 Septimus Heap, Sat, 19th Jan '13 5:10:21 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
So the problem here is that this is getting misused as a Shout-Out to memes that have nothing to do with the work.

^ Basically, yeah. If it was only the parameters of what counts as being referred to by the original source I don't think it would have been such a big deal.

 43 Septimus Heap, Sun, 20th Jan '13 1:41:18 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Do we have a wick check at hand here? I do not feel that the name is ambiguous enough to cause this effect.

 44 lu 127, Mon, 4th Feb '13 8:35:16 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Stale and expired, locking it.
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