Needs Help: Trivially Obvious

Deadlock Clock: 19th Oct 2012 11:59:00 PM
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At first I thought this was duplicate to Captain Obvious, but it's not. This trope is applied when someone tries to say something positive, but ends up saying something obvious (like "your dress is blue" when trying to complinent it).

It seems to be The Same, but More Specific to Damned by Faint Praise (when you compliment something minor, implying that there's nothing else to compliment), or to Shaped Like Itself. Lot's of examples on Trivially Obvious are examples of Shaped Like Itself including the "self demonstrating" part in description: "Of all the Comedy Tropes out there, this... is one of them."

I'm not really sure this is a trope by its own. Or maybe it is, just misused.
I don't see any important distinctions between this and Damned by Faint Praise. It seems to be saying that the difference is whether it's an intentional insult or not, but I don't see how that really changes the meaning of the trope.
3 AnotherDuck9th Aug 2012 09:01:59 PM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
When I saw this thread, I thought I'd read them through so I could point out the difference. I didn't find one.

Potentially, there can be a difference between wanting to say something complimentary, but for one reason or another (either blanking or chickening out), ending up saying something trivial, and deliberately using this as an insult. However, I didn't see this in the tropes nor in the examples.
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^ Yeah. Damned by Faint Praise can be deliberate on the part of the giver, or it can merely be assumed that way by the receiver.
5 AnotherDuck12th Aug 2012 06:10:14 AM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
I think merging Trivially Obvious and Damned by Faint Praise might be the best choice.

We could differ them based on whether the comment is meant to be insulting or not, but I'm not sure that's significant enough. It would also mean re-defining both tropes. Or merging and then splitting...
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7 Noaqiyeum17th Oct 2012 08:39:27 AM from the October Country , Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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At the very least it should be renamed. Trivially Obvious is anything but.
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8 Willbyr22nd Jan 2013 03:43:38 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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