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Duplicate Trope: Pure Awesomeness get usage counts

 51 Noaqiyeum, Sat, 20th Apr '13 12:35:17 PM from out of the night from pole to pole Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
I support changing it, but I think most of the previous suggestions are better. Awesomeness Based Superpower suggests either 'a superhero who can do anything provided it is sufficiently awesome' or 'a superhero whose powers only work in the presence of awesomeness'. Either of those eliminates many of the examples, which don't seem to be centered on a particular person at all.
We dance around in a ring and suppose,
But the Secret sits in the middle and knows.
- Robert Frost
 52 Septimus Heap, Sat, 20th Apr '13 12:36:02 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
The second suggestions also work well.

 53 Willbyr, Mon, 27th May '13 10:26:58 PM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
With Mod Hat On
Single prop crowner's hooked.
My first thought was to have it refer to things viewed in-universe as Pure Awesome (kind of like Beyond the Impossible). Particularly when such things are (at least seen by other characters as) ridiculous. Still, I could see some of the other suggestions like That Human's "character is so awesome that their mere presence causes tangible physical effect". I think it's a little narrow, but it's better than nothing.

I also disagree with those who say it's covered by Awesomeness Is Volatile. As ...someone else mentioned... that would probably be a subtrope (at least of That Human's suggestion) where the "tangible physical effect" is specifically explosive.

Lastly, while I love having trope names having Trope Namers, I'll admit that this one can be more than a little misleading. Seconding a name change to The Power Of Awesome, or some such.

edited 5th Jun '13 12:27:09 AM by ladubois

 
 55 Willbyr, Sat, 29th Jun '13 7:53:16 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
With Mod Hat On
Calling for the redefinition.

edited 29th Jun '13 7:53:31 AM by Willbyr

 56 Willbyr, Sat, 29th Jun '13 3:11:48 PM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
With Mod Hat On
Titles crowner's hooked.
 57 Noaqiyeum, Sat, 29th Jun '13 10:27:13 PM from out of the night from pole to pole Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
The Power Of Awesome suggests a connection to The Power of Rock or The Power of Love that I don't think exists.
We dance around in a ring and suppose,
But the Secret sits in the middle and knows.
- Robert Frost
 58 Septimus Heap, Sun, 30th Jun '13 1:16:39 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
The Power of Rock has a meandering description, but it looks like "using music as a weapon or power". The Power of Love is "using love as a weapon to defeat an enemy". So on this glance I do not see a problem.

 59 Noaqiyeum, Sun, 30th Jun '13 12:49:17 PM from out of the night from pole to pole Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
Both of The Power Of X tropes are about, basically, "The hero wins in the end because ey has X". This trope is not exclusive to heroes - there are as many antagonists in the examples as protagonists.

Plus this is often a natural law of the World of Badass, as frequently as it is something tied to a particular character, as discussed with regards to Awesomeness Based Superpower.

edited 30th Jun '13 1:05:13 PM by Noaqiyeum

We dance around in a ring and suppose,
But the Secret sits in the middle and knows.
- Robert Frost
Bump
 
Only one option in green: Awesomeness Is a Force, with 9 supports and no opposition.

 62 Septimus Heap, Wed, 18th Sep '13 4:40:52 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
Votes bump. Awesomeness Is a Force is the only name in green with 10-0 votes.

Swirl Swirl Red Whirl
I suggest we do the name change. Anyone disagrees?

I'm fine with it.
 
 65 Cider, Wed, 9th Oct '13 12:51:01 PM from Not New York Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
The Final ECW Champion
I do not like any of the proposed renames and do not see the point of renaming this trope to begin with. The last crowner voted to redefine the page, so all we need to do is tweak the description a little.

Edit: Even then, it is not as if the description is especially difficult to understand, nor have the examples ever been especially out of control. This whole discussion was started on the erroneous assertion that this was a duplicate of Awesomeness Is Volatile so it seems it really should have been all closed once it was established that was not the case.

edited 9th Oct '13 12:53:59 PM by Cider

Modified Ura-nage, Torture Rack
[up] You're too late to say you don't like renaming. We've had the crowner going for a while and one of the names has a great deal of support.
 
 67 Willbyr, Thu, 31st Oct '13 5:57:50 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
With Mod Hat On
Calling for the rename to Awesomeness Is a Force.
 68 Septimus Heap, Thu, 31st Oct '13 12:33:42 PM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
Hmm ... I get the feeling that we need some degree of description and example cleaning before we can go ahead with the rename here.

 69 Cider, Fri, 1st Nov '13 12:04:17 PM from Not New York Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
The Final ECW Champion
Never too late, unless the local dictators put it down. Otherwise, more crowners can be opened, especially if the voter are informed they were voting on false pretenses. The charge was that it was a duplicate of awesomeness is volatile but there was never anything in the trope's description to suggest that. Yet, a crowner was put forward anyway without pointing this out.

If the mods are not going to allow it, fine but otherwise no, it is not too late.
Modified Ura-nage, Torture Rack
 70 Blue Guy, Sat, 9th Nov '13 4:33:09 PM from Bella Vista, Arkansas Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
 71 Septimus Heap, Wed, 1st Jan '14 3:44:52 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Puʻu ʻŌʻō
Well, OK, I rewrote the description and did the renaming, tagging, wick- and page cleaning.

 72 Willbyr, Wed, 1st Jan '14 6:52:46 AM from North Little Rock, AR Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
With Mod Hat On
The discussion is moved. Locking up.
The system doesn't know you right now, so no post button for you.
You need to Get Known to get one of those.

Alternative Titles: Pure Awesomeness
29th Jun '13 8:58:30 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the name will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of Crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative names.
At issue:
Previous crowner decided to redefine and rename this to "Awesomeness is a force that makes stuff happen that exists in-universe and not just a subjective view".
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