I see the problem with the description, it is vague but I get the picture, but it does seem like a legitimate trope that I am opposed to cutting or merging.
The definition as I am interpreting it is "Awesomeness is a force that exists in-universe and not just a subjective view" (which "causes tangible physical harm to their enemies"). However, the definition of Awesomeness Is Volatile is "Sufficient amounts of awesomeness causes explosions", which seems more like a Sub-Trope than anything ("several examples of [Pure Awesomeness] have a common element not seen in the other examples", i.e. explosions caused by overabundance, hence Awesomeness Is Volatile).
The best solution I see, and the one I propose, is merely to rewrite Pure Awesomeness to make it clearer. Even the Laconic version is unclear and makees it seem like someone who looks awesome.
And just in case you missed it, the definition as I see it is "Awesomeness is a force that exists in-universe and not just a subjective view".
People say an image is worth a thousand words. One look at the Image Pickin' board will tell you this is bullshit.
The examples should probably be trimmed. If it is not described as "Awesome" or some similar term in the story itself by at least narration if not any characters there in it should not be listed.
Okay borderline case. Would be like this.
Motel Vontavious Porter, half man half amazing and one half of the tag team champions. He is so amazing he can three halves!
There does seem to be a pattern of being awesome makes stuff happen. There's actually a power in Vampire: The Masquerade and Vampire: The Requiem called Majesty/Sovereignty that basically makes you appear so awesome and commanding that no one can attack you.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.
-Philip K. Dick
I think we would be better off it the subjective banner did not exist, was significantly shrunken or at least heavily discouraged if that is the truth. Anyway I think it needs a cleanup and maybe a tweaking of the description. More than repair I really think it just needs more clear examples. I will add one.
Edit: I will also request the deletion of examples that lack content or do not line up with the description. Real life examples could be possible, but both real life examples currently listed should probably be deleted along with the Tron one.
Crowning Moment Of Awesome? That should be removed from the description as it is a Sugar Wiki audience reaction/Just for Fun thing and should not be used to describe tropes. Something much plainer such as "Normally for people to consider someone awesome, that someone must do something"
The fact that the awesomeness is in-universe is precisely why it should not be marked as subjective nor refer to subjective tropes in the description.
Neither of those things really gets at the real issues with the page, though, as has been discussed.
Not really... or, kind of, but it's misleading. As I understand it, it's basically the same concept as Awesomeness Is Volatile only awesomeness is causing things to happen besides explosions. Like a thing that is awesome generates an intangible aura of awesomeness around it, and when the field is strong enough or combines with other fields to become so it makes Stuff Happen* technical term.
Yes, exactly. I think the best approach is "non-explosions supertrope of Awesomeness Is Volatile"
And I like the name The Power Of Awesome.
I do think, however that a distinction should be drawn between "awesomeness is a force that has a tangible effect on the world" vs. "X is so awesome that everybody is forced to react to the awesome by doing Y". In other words, I don't think the Vampire example is Pure Awesome, I think it's "I look so supernaturally impressive/royal that everybody reacts in-universe by doing Y".
Does that make sense?
edited 25th Feb '13 8:19:39 AM by ArcadesSabboth
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While I'd normally ask for some actual proof of misuse before arguing for a rename, if we're redefining or tightening it up, I think it might be reasonable anyway. Though I'd really want a name suggestion I like before fully supporting that.
Awesomeness Based Superpower kind of works, but it's very bland to me, and sounds more like a laconic than a name (all it lacks is a beginning "An"). Would just Awesomeness Superpower or Awesomeness Power still work?
Alternative Titles: Pure Awesomeness
29th Jun '13 8:58:30 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.
Previous crowner decided to redefine and rename this to "Awesomeness is a force that makes stuff happen that exists in-universe and not just a subjective view".