Dragon WriterThis is a bonified member of Will And Inheritance Tropes. It is not about the Stock Phrase by itself. I do have a 100%note Wick Check waiting and ready - feel free to fix or debate the following:
Correct usage ratio
Stock Phrase and/or definitely misuse (12)
Ambiguous cases, may or not be misuse (9)
Little to Zero Context (9)
edited 23rd Jul '12 10:31:37 PM by Stratadrake
I'll look into cleaning up the examples tonight. Should we decide to rename, how about "Will with a condition"? Edit: Cleaned up some of the wicks (Sidney Sheldon, Characters.Sesame Street, Film.The Hudsucker Proxy, Series.Married With Children, Webcomic.Menage A 3, WesternAnimation.Freaky Stories). It seems we are missing two tropes here, one about the literal interpretation of On One Condition (though some cases could be If You Are So Evil Kill This Kitten or the like), and one about wills with a condition in general (e.g., the Hanaukyō Maid Tai example).
edited 23rd Jul '12 1:18:29 PM by jkbeta
World's Toughest MilkmanHow about simply Will With A Catch? I agree that the current name is the most likely cause of the misuse, and this should be renamed. eta: I'm not yet convinced we need two will-related tropes here.
edited 23rd Jul '12 1:42:01 PM by Xtifr
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
Apparently this has been called the "Jewish Clause"
I like the renaming idea. It should resolve the problem.
Rename and broaden could solve the problem. The current trope description references a specific plot (will with a catch and the lengths a character has to go to as to satisfy these conditions), while the examples tend to go for the plot device (will with a catch). If we redefine this as the plot device, the old examples stay correct.
Legacy With A Catch is the term Ethan Mordden used in his survey of 1920s musicals, where it was a fairly common premise (though the best-known theatrical example from that era is the non-musical The Cat and the Canary).
Legacy with a Catch sounds good.
Three StepsHehe, this gives me amusing memories about the Rule Against Perpetuities.
Dragon Writer"Legacy" has too many meanings. This is specifically about wills. Conditional Inheritance?
If "legacy" has too many meanings, so do most words used in trope names. (A dictionary I just checked gives it three definitions, of which the first one is pertinent to this trope.)
Dragon WriterMerriam-Webster gave two definitions. Maybe I read too much fantasynote but I always hear "legacy" used in MW's definition number two: The metaphorical sense rather than legal will. Heck, three of MW's four examples demonstrate that definition as well.
edited 25th Jul '12 11:36:06 PM by Stratadrake
With Mod Hat OnClocking due to lack of activity.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
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