Needs Help: Boys Love Genre

I concur with the three posts in between mine and Spark 9's. There's a reason why Shōnen Demographic isn't called "Young Males (demographic)".

edited 2nd Aug '12 3:55:53 PM by burnpsy

I'm inclined to agree as well. Both "Boy's Love" and "Yaoi Genre" are equally incomprehensible to someone who knows nothing about the topic. So unless we're proposing a rename to Japanese Media Gay Romance Genre or something like that, it seems preferable to go with what it's actually called.

Well, to be fair, "Boys' Love" is an accepted term as well, commonly shortened to BL*

. "Girls' Love" however, is not as popular, to my knowledge, so changing changing 'Yuri' to 'Girls' Love' is not a good idea*

not to mention we changed Yuri from Girls' Love, since the latter was causing problems

. And since we can't change Yuri, it is better use Yaoi as it spear counterpart, to make it consistent.

Oh, gods, I remember how obnoxious the custom title is for these two genres. Why haven't this changed yet?

PS:Oh, and, apparently, Boys Love is also the name of a Japanese film.

edited 2nd Aug '12 6:44:30 PM by Heatth

While I don't mind the page title being either way, since neither title would be all that easy to understand anyway, as noted in this thread, I don't think "BoysLoveGenre" should be custom-titled to read "Yaoi (genre)", as having something you type come out as a vastly different combination of letters feels... odd.

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From what I gather, which means pornographic and which doesn't is actually inconsistent between Japan and North America - best avoid that discussion.

There are a few pages that are custom titles like that already, mostly from admin fiats.

edited 3rd Aug '12 4:08:13 PM by burnpsy

I agree. The current bullshit custom title for Girls' Love*

is stupid enough already. We don't need to make the same for Boys' Love as well*

if we can, we should take out the stupid (genre) from the custom title as well

. Can I change the current option in the crowner or should I create a new one?

Really? Didn't know that. Well, my point stand anyway. BL is an acceptable term but not necessarily the best to be the main title.

edited 3rd Aug '12 5:39:10 PM by Heatth

I agree that the redirects shouldn't be custom-titled to force the name, but I doubt that will get overturned, so we may as well change them to make sense.

What do you mean? Even if we can't stop the 'Boys Love' from displaying 'Boys Love (Genre)' it doesn't mean we need to make it even worse by displaying it as 'Yaoi (Genre)' instead.

No, what we should do is make Yaoi Genre the main title*

and leave Yaoi as a non-custom titled redirect.

PS: Oh, wait, you mean changing the custom title of "Yaoi" itself*

? Then, yeah, it would better to change this one custom title to the main title 'Yaoi (Genre)'. But even better would be using the opportunity to fix the custom title instead.

edited 3rd Aug '12 6:34:18 PM by Heatth

Bump. I think an 18-3 ratio is enough, so I'm hollering for action. It might take a while to go through though, since it needs admin approval.

Calling in favor of Yaoi (genre) and Yuri (genre).

edited 8th Aug '12 1:30:07 PM by ccoa

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.

The page has been moved and custom-titled. Should this thread be put in Special Efforts, or just locked up and a new one started?

New thread. Best leave this one open until the wicks are done, though.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Why is Boys Love custom titled now?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Are we done here or is there work to do?

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer

There are 480 wicks to fix. Also, the custom title for Boy's Love needs to go away - Boys Love is an accepted alt term and customing it makes posts and uncorrected edits look ugly.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Bumping after 4 months. I did start the rename but stopped when I realized that apparently Boys Love is an accepted alternate name for Yaoi. Do we still move all wicks over or is it acceptable here to have more than one name?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

Meh, leave it. It's no big deal. BL is a known term and this is languishing. Gonna lock it.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer