Not Tropeworthy: Memetic Number

Where to begin? Well, the description reads:

The Memetic Number is basically a number that, aside from being an Arc Number, is so ingrained into the audience's mind that they often use it idiomatically on other media (e.g. the Internet), thereby giving it memetic status. Furthermore, it is taken beyond the specific media into general pop culture, much to the point that were it not for helpful archiving from sites like The Other Wiki the original reference would be lost—-something an Arc Number would envy.

However, the examples list reads as though the trope were "List of numbers that appear in a work". The vast majority of the examples are Square Peg Round Trope.

Further, the list is full of Zero Context Examples, relying only on the potholed work for the reader to make any sense of it.

There might be a legitimate trope (or at least YMMV item) here, but in its current state I don't see any point in keeping it.

This may honestly be the worst list of examples I have ever seen.

Okay, it's a list of numerical memes, with a bunch of non-memetic numbers thrown in too. Funny, but not a trope.

Clearly an Audience Reaction. And a cesspool of Zero Context Examples, to boot.

Good lord.

Cut this. Cut all other pages too, if that's the only way to eliminate this one.

I think numerical memes are a tropes. This is just a terrible way to write them up.

Most of them aren't even memes. They're just numbers with some kind of significance that appear in media.

I'm not exactly going to cry a river if this page is cut.

edited 12th Jul '12 6:18:51 PM by Feather7603

I think this page can be pretty accurately summed up as Numbers.

This page appears to be just a list of numbers. I bet it costs us money somehow.

I looked at the page. It seems to be a list of arc numbers or various references to Arc Numbers in different works. It's not really providing anything useful.

I support making this either a JustForFun/ page, or sending it to the Cut List to die.

Ah, good catch, I thought we already had a page like this in better form. I think we can safely redirect this to Arc Numbers, which does the same only better.

This page looks pretty useless especially since none of the entries as written are examples. I kinda like putting it to Just for Fun - even a list of numbers is this.

All legit examples would probably still fall under Memetic Mutation

I'm leaning towards cut, but I could get behind the idea of keeping it as a JFF page. In the latter case, it could do with either a name change or with someone explaining how the numbers are memetic.

Isn't that like saying, "All examples that fall under a subtrope of Memetic Mutation fit under Memetic Mutation"?

Yep. This is like Memetic Mutation, except that the meme is a mundane thing.

Does Memetic Mutation cover just In-Universe things or also those where RL stuff becomes a meme thanks to fiction? If not, we might need such a trope.

Bump. So the options are cutlist, Just for Fun, and redirect to Arc Number. Any others?

Could redirect to Memetic Mutation, too.

Scrub it of Zero Context Examples and require that any remaining and new examples actually explain what makes a number memetic, and it has to be an Audience Reaction or it's just an Arc Number.

Honestly, though, I wouldn't cry if this were cut. We have too many Memetic Mutation But More Specific pages as it is.

I agree with this.

edited 17th Jul '12 3:23:35 AM by DoktorvonEurotrash

Page Action Crown.

Crowner away!

Crowner seems to have stabilised. I've made the change.

Calling crowner: make a redirect to Arc Number. Discard the current "trope".

Do not take action before the crowner is called, please.

edited 27th Jul '12 10:47:04 AM by ccoa

Redirect was done, but there are 26 wicks left here.

Just 1 left now - The Bible is locked.